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| <p class=MsoTitle>DSDP TM Conference Call, 11-November -2005</p> |
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| <h3>Wind River Salzburg, Austria</h3> |
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| <h4><span style='font-weight:normal'>Martin Oberhuber WR Technical lead for |
| DSDP-Target Manager<o:p></o:p></span></h4> |
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| <h4><span style='font-weight:normal'>Doug Gaff DSDP Project Lead<o:p></o:p></span></h4> |
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| <h3>Intel</h3> |
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| <h4><span style='font-weight:normal'>Peter Lachner Manages XScale component |
| tools project; currently compiler tools<o:p></o:p></span></h4> |
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| <h3>Montavista</h3> |
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| <h4><span style='font-weight:normal'>Pierre-Alexandre Masse wrote the |
| Bugzilla 65471 RSF framework<o:p></o:p></span></h4> |
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| <h3>QNX</h3> |
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| <h4><span style='font-weight:normal'>Doug Schaefer CDT Project Lead<o:p></o:p></span></h4> |
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| Engineering Manage for Tools at Symbian<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>Neil Taylor |
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| </span></span><![endif]>Toronto Meeting Feb.2006<span style='mso-bidi-font-family: |
| Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]>Next steps<span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <h1 style='margin-left:0in'>Meeting Notes</h1> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Martin O. opens the |
| call and asks attendees who had not joined the first TM call to introduce |
| themselves (see attendee list above).<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><u><span |
| style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Symbian:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Victor Palau: |
| Engineering Manager for Tools at Symbian (non-core-tools: not needed for |
| building the product, but helping). Looking for TM for Symbian Devices. Want to |
| provide a standard communication channel for Symbian (on top of Debugging).<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Currently, have a |
| set of Symbian specific solutions:<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8; |
| tab-stops:list .4in'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Symbian Agent, |
| + FTP Proxy device on the PC that makes the agent connection transparent |
| (connection is over serial line)<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Custom FTP |
| commands for installation + execution of programs, and restart the board<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo8; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Currently |
| moving to Eclipse environment (Nokia is the provider of the first toolset) |
| working in various projects including CDT, in order to make this Symbian aware.<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Neil: Technology |
| Architect<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Javier Montanu |
| One of the engineers working on TM<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <h3><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>CDT Conference Doug Gaff:<o:p></o:p></span></h3> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>1<sup>st</sup> |
| day, Mikhail presented the Remote Launch idea<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo11; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Got an action |
| item to resolve what Remote Launch will look like<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo11; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Greg from LANL |
| (Parallel Tools Project) did an impressive presentation of their tools; |
| potential need for TM<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l5 level2 lfo11; |
| tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"; |
| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>AI contact |
| Greg; see what they are doing, possibility to collaborate?<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><u><span |
| style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Doug Schaefer:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Progress on Remote |
| Launch HP has something for Remote Launch, but currently not much progress; |
| CDT folks will be comfortable with having some TM packages for remote launch<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Some Remote Java |
| stuff could benefit from Target Management as well!<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>CDT put up a Wiki |
| on eclipse.org, so thats a good place to read about some details. Currently |
| its not a true Wiki because only Committers can add stuff, but they are trying |
| to fix this (e.g. everyone with a Bugzilla account)<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo12; |
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| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>AI add a TM |
| page at Wiki<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.3in;text-indent:-.15in;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo12; |
| tab-stops:list .4in'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>What are the |
| CDT folks using the Wiki for? Replacement for Homepage, since it is much |
| easier to add content than adding it to the homepage (facts, howtos etc.) |
| Discussions are still on the mailing list for now.<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><u><span |
| style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Follow-up on Chicago Meeting Action Items:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Website update, and |
| CDT presentation are done. Other action items are still open.<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Martin O: Explains |
| the TM Mission statement on the Website<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Victor P: Aligned |
| with what Symbian wants to do<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>The mission |
| statement is accepted as written down on the website.<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><u><span |
| style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>RSE Status:<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Making some |
| progress but sill some obstacles; looking better, but not quite there yet, |
| hopefully make it till the next meeting (3 weeks)<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <h3>Toronto Meeting:</h3> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal>Feb. 22-24, Toronto accepted by TM group<span |
| style='mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <h3>Next Steps:</h3> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>Meeting on TCA |
| Nov.14 in Salzburg: Open up Phone conf., at least for a summary <o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <h3>Resources:</h3> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal>Pierre-Alexandre: What can we do while still waiting for RSE |
| to come out?</p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal>MartinO: Send scenarios; work on TM interfaces (our API to |
| the outside should not depend on actual RSE implementation). A very rough start |
| at a TM API is in the Chicago Brainstorming Notes, and the CDT Presentation |
| (there is 1 slide).</p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <h3>Action Items:</h3> |
| |
| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>DavidD</span></b><span |
| style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>: Approach ssh / team people<br> |
| RSE Docs, Sample, Release<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>MartinO</span></b><span |
| style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>: Launch Actions Initial Design<br> |
| TM API Initial Design<br> |
| Contact Greg Watson (LANL, PTP)<br> |
| Add a Wiki starting page for TM<br> |
| Post phone dial-in info for Salzburg TCA Meeting Nov.14<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>MartinO</span></b><span |
| style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>, <b>Pierre-Alexandre</b>:<br> |
| TM API Initial Design<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>George |
| Clark</span></b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;mso-bidi-font-weight: |
| bold'>:</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'> Approach ARM |
| regarding Register file definitions<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
| |
| <p class=MsoListBullet><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol; |
| mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> |
| </span></span><![endif]><b><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>Everyone</span></b><span |
| style='mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'>: Scenarios for various environments<br> |
| Bring schema / example for Register Files & Boardfiles<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| color:white'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <h3>Next Meeting:</h3> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>3 Weeks: Monday, |
| 28-Nov -2005 at 9am PST (followup 3 wk, 19-Dec-05).<o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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| <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></p> |
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