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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 30, 2010 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 173098# <br />
 <a
 	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full
 list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
 	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=03
 &amp;day=30
 &amp;year=2010
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 8:00 AM Pacific; 11:00 AM Eastern; 1500 UTC</a></p>


 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David
 	Williams: Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: N</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan
 	Srinivasan: Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge:
 	Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer:
 	Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan
 	Raev: Y</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
 <ul>

 	<li>Q: PMC approval of changes to provisional API?<br />
 	A: Yes (best to document same way).
 	<p>TODO: udpate approval doc. API Doc already mentions.</p>
 	</li>

 	<li>EclipseCon feedback?
 	<p>Web tools Tutorial well attended. 3 hours too short for content.
 	(3 major topics too much. 2 topics would be ok).</p>
 	<p>Other?</p>
 	<p>Some 25 minute talks didn't fit well. Perhaps ok for "grouped"
 	or related content. Some of them could have been "lightening" talks.
 	Speakers will have to adjust better, too, if used in future.</p>
 	<p>Liked having tutorials each day.</p>
 	<p>Since Neil is long winded, next year, put Raghu's talk before Neils :) </p>
 	</li>

 	<li>PMC Review and approval of 3.1.2 Patch (for public update
 	site).
 	<p>See <a
 		href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=305306">bug
 	305306</a>.</p>
 	</li>


 	<li>Is M7 in trouble?
 	<ul>

 		<li>Review <a
 			href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP/Accessibility/Helios/webtools">Accessibility
 		checklist (summary)</a>
 		<p>WPE and Faces Config editor are only "large" functions not
 		accessible. Need to check if enough of Faces Config fixed to count as
 		"accessible". WPE won't be for release. Raghu says maybe in
 		maintenance release.</p>
 		</li>

 		<li>We need to rampdown.
 		<p>Discuss</p>
 		<ul>
 			<li><a
 				href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=304654">bug
 			304654</a></li>
 			<li><a
 				href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=307148">bug
 			307148</a></li>
 		</ul>
 		<p>Everyone understood and agreed. These are some big areas that
 		were known to be "coming in late" but almost done. Neil had a few from
 		Dali yet to put in rampdown plan.</p>
 		</li>

 		<li>Java EE 6 annotation-based wizards
 		<p>Deadline? Point of no return? We decided 4/15 was hard cutoff.</p>
 		</li>

 		<li>Dali and EclipseLink
 		<p>new function coming? cross-packaging needed?</p>
 		</li>

 		<li>JSF
 		<p>Many defects deferred from M6 to M7, "at last minute"?</p>
 		<p>feature restructuring desired</p>
 		<p>Accessibility bugs outstanding since last year?</p>
 		</li>

 	</ul>
 	</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Handy Links from past meetings</h2>
 <h3>References</h3>
 <ul>


 	<li><a
 		href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_31">Continuous
 	Improvement Notes</a></li>
 	<li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2010/">EclipseCon 2010</a></li>

 	<li>FYI ... Eclipse Foundation has a relatively new <a
 		href="http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise">"enterprise
 	page"</a>.</li>
 	<li><a
 		href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=webtools">WTP
 	3.2 Plans</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Other projects to watch:</h3>
 <ul>
 	<li>WTP @ GSoC 2009. There are two project accepted:
 	<ul>
 		<li>Index search for Java EE metadata. See <a
 			href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=233505">bug
 		233505</a></li>
 		<li>Embed OpenEJB in J2EE Preview server adapter. See <a
 			href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265952">bug
 		265952</a></li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>
 	<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA
 	Tools</a></li>
 	<li><a
 		href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT
 	Texo project proposal</a></li>
 	<li><a
 		href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven
 	Integration</a></li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
 </body>
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	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 30, 2010 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 173098# <br />
	<a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full
	list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=03
	&day=30
	&year=2010
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 8:00 AM Pacific; 11:00 AM Eastern; 1500 UTC</a></p>


	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David
	Williams: Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: N</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan
	Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge:
	Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer:
	Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan
	Raev: Y</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
	<ul>

	<li>Q: PMC approval of changes to provisional API?<br />
	A: Yes (best to document same way).
	<p>TODO: udpate approval doc. API Doc already mentions.</p>
	</li>

	<li>EclipseCon feedback?
	<p>Web tools Tutorial well attended. 3 hours too short for content.
	(3 major topics too much. 2 topics would be ok).</p>
	<p>Other?</p>
	<p>Some 25 minute talks didn't fit well. Perhaps ok for "grouped"
	or related content. Some of them could have been "lightening" talks.
	Speakers will have to adjust better, too, if used in future.</p>
	<p>Liked having tutorials each day.</p>
	<p>Since Neil is long winded, next year, put Raghu's talk before Neils :) </p>
	</li>

	<li>PMC Review and approval of 3.1.2 Patch (for public update
	site).
	<p>See <a
	href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=305306">bug
	305306</a>.</p>
	</li>



	<li>Is M7 in trouble?
	<ul>

	<li>Review <a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP/Accessibility/Helios/webtools">Accessibility
	checklist (summary)</a>
	<p>WPE and Faces Config editor are only "large" functions not
	accessible. Need to check if enough of Faces Config fixed to count as
	"accessible". WPE won't be for release. Raghu says maybe in
	maintenance release.</p>
	</li>

	<li>We need to rampdown.
	<p>Discuss</p>
	<ul>
	<li><a
	href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=304654">bug
	304654</a></li>
	<li><a
	href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=307148">bug
	307148</a></li>
	</ul>
	<p>Everyone understood and agreed. These are some big areas that
	were known to be "coming in late" but almost done. Neil had a few from
	Dali yet to put in rampdown plan.</p>
	</li>

	<li>Java EE 6 annotation-based wizards
	<p>Deadline? Point of no return? We decided 4/15 was hard cutoff.</p>
	</li>

	<li>Dali and EclipseLink
	<p>new function coming? cross-packaging needed?</p>
	</li>

	<li>JSF
	<p>Many defects deferred from M6 to M7, "at last minute"?</p>
	<p>feature restructuring desired</p>
	<p>Accessibility bugs outstanding since last year?</p>
	</li>

	</ul>
	</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Handy Links from past meetings</h2>
	<h3>References</h3>
	<ul>



	<li><a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_31">Continuous
	Improvement Notes</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2010/">EclipseCon 2010</a></li>

	<li>FYI ... Eclipse Foundation has a relatively new <a
	href="http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise">"enterprise
	page"</a>.</li>
	<li><a
	href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=webtools">WTP
	3.2 Plans</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Other projects to watch:</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>WTP @ GSoC 2009. There are two project accepted:
	<ul>
	<li>Index search for Java EE metadata. See <a
	href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=233505">bug
	233505</a></li>
	<li>Embed OpenEJB in J2EE Preview server adapter. See <a
	href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265952">bug
	265952</a></li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA
	Tools</a></li>
	<li><a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT
	Texo project proposal</a></li>
	<li><a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven
	Integration</a></li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
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