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| PMC Members Attending: |
| Tim Wagner, |
| Raghunathan Srinivasan, |
| David Williams, |
| Arthur Ryman, |
| Jochen Krause, |
| <P>PMC Member Regrets: Naci Dai |
| <P>Invited Guests: Robert Goodman (ATF), |
| Neil Hauge (Dali) |
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| <h1>WTP PMC Minutes for September 26, 2006 Conference Call</h1> |
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| <h2>Community </h2> |
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| <li>ESE being held next month; David and Tim will be presenting jointly on WTP. |
| <li>WTP will send out a web-specific CFP as soon as Eclipsezilla is live. [still pending] |
| <li>Tim sending out request for one of the interested parties to take over as default |
| QA rep in Bugzilla for the website and FAQ components. |
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| <h2>Process </h2> |
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| <li>Invitation extended to Jean Choi to join PMC calls to coordinate visual editor component |
| creation, staffing, etc. (Though due to my travel, she did not receive the invite early enough for |
| this week's call.) |
| <li>Development process amendments: See David's proposal to wtp-pmc mailing list from last week. |
| General consensus; some additions suggested, so David will re-send with amendments this week. |
| <li>The PMC reviewed the idea of using Instantiations' WindowsTester (TM) product via an Eclipse committer |
| licensing scheme, but elected not to move forward because the member companies as a group were not able |
| to approve internal use of a commercial product as a required part of the build/test cycle. Specific |
| comments from David Williams regarding IBM's concerns: |
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| "As a PMC member I'm concerned about the use of Windows Tester in WTP automated testing for the following reasons. |
| First, even if there is a 'free license' granted to all committers, there are many contributors to WTP that are |
| not committers, so that would lock them out of that part of the project. Second, even among committers, |
| there still has to be internal legal review by each parent company for each individual to determine if using that tool is acceptable. |
| Just because its free, and just because there is a 'license granted' does not automatically mean it is |
| acceptable to each company for each individual. Just as an example, a WTP committer might, in their many duties, also work on some |
| product that competes with Windows Tester. So, while it was a good suggestion to consider, given these sorts of complications, it does |
| not seem open enough for such an important part of WTP." |
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| <h2>Requirements and 2.0 Planning </h2> |
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| <li>Lack of detailed component-level plans will make public requirement calls less likely to succeed. |
| <li>1.5.1 activities have delayed production of more detailed component plans, but planning document has been updated |
| to reflect latest thinking. All PMC members should review and update this week in preparation for further component |
| lead edits. |
| <li>Want to reach out to SAP - might be able to use the status calls to engage with them in a more detailed, ongoing manner. |
| <li>Naci setting up STP interlock discussions. |
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| <h2>1.5.1 and 2.0 Status </h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>1.5.1 on track for Friday release. |
| <li>Tim to update website and project meta-info after release. |
| <li>PMC discussed possibility of small interim maintenance release between Callisto updates 1 and 2. |
| <li>Working to get M2 working; some internal API use is currently causing breakage. |
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| <h2>JSF Status </h2> |
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| <li>Focused last week on library feature and use of facets; planning to publish feature description when this |
| planning completes. |
| <li>Need to work with JSP team to discuss tool changes. Cameron working on design already. |
| <li>Expectation is to have Wiki complete for adopter review in preparation for planning call. |
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| <h2>ATF Status </h2> |
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| <li>Lightning talk in Dallas was well received. |
| <li>Two possible adopters looking at ATF for possible product use. |
| <li>Bob working with IBM and Eclipse PR to do announcements around ATF. |
| <li>Will be presenting at AJAXWorld and AJAX Experience. |
| <li>Looking into articles for print media. |
| <li>Design and planning around next milestone (content and dates); should have more info next week for PMC and |
| community review. |
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| <h2>Dali Status </h2> |
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| <li>"Round 1" of DTP migration is complete; some limitations and issues have been raised with the DTP team and are being |
| discussed further this week. |
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| <h2>Action Items and Owners </h2> |
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| <li>Naci setting up STP interlock discussion. |
| <li>Tim to send out CFP for EclipseCon '07 once EclipseZilla goes live (still pending). |
| <li>Jochen to reach out to add-in providers and WTP requirements group around 2.0 plan. |
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| <small>Minutes taken by Tim Wagner, September 26, 2006. Please notify me of any corrections needed. |
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