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| <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 6, 2007 Conference Call</h1> |
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| <h2>Call Info</h2> |
| <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br /> |
| Alternate: 702-894-2358<br /> |
| Access code: 3500048# <br /> |
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| <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PST / 10am EST</a> |
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| <h2>Attendees</h2> |
| <h3>PMC Members</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Tim Wagner: Y</li> |
| <li>David Williams: Y</li> |
| <li>Naci Dai: R</li> |
| <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> |
| <li>Arthur Ryman: N</li> |
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| <h3>Invited Guests</h3> |
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| <li>Pieter Humphrey: Y</li> |
| <li>Neil Hauge (JPA/Dali): Y</li> |
| <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li> |
| <li>Jess Garms: Y</li> |
| <li>Phil Berkland: Y</li> |
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| <h2>Community</h2> |
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| <li>EclipseCon: we need to decide <a |
| href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=programcommittee/">short |
| talks and demos</a> today! (Technically, 1/10 is the absolute deadline). |
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| <li>Review, comment, and/or vote for 3 <a |
| href="http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=EclipseCon%202007&component=Demo&track_id=4&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPEN&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">demos</a></li> |
| <li>Review, comment, and/or vote for 6 <a |
| href="http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=EclipseCon+2007&component=Short+Talk&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&track_id=4&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">short |
| talks</a> |
| <p>We actually only have 6 short talk submissions ... but, being |
| responsible, are there any we should not accept and return a slot?</p> |
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| <li><p>PMC Votes on demos:</p> |
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| <li>4009: 2</li> |
| <li>4010: 1</li> |
| <li>4014: 3</li> |
| <li>4021: 3</li> |
| <li>4049: 2 1/2 (Raghu placed a fourth, backup vote)</li> |
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| <p>The selected demos are: <b>4014, 4021 and 4049</b>. </p> |
| <p>Runners-up-hold-if-extra-slots: 4009, 4010. </p> |
| <p>(Decline others, declined demos could maybe be re-submitted as short talks if the presenters are interested in being considered).</p> |
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| <li><p>Short talks:</p> |
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| <li>4075: Accepted</li> |
| <li>4099: Accepted</li> |
| <li>4114: Tentatively declined, depending on context of short talks</li> |
| <li>4137: Declinced, as there is a demo with the same content already approved</li> |
| <li>4165: Accepted</li> |
| <li>3740: Accepted</li> |
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| <p>Follow-up after meeting: the short talks are assigned "randomly", to encourage diversity of interest, |
| so 4114 may be too deep in one specific area.</p> |
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| <h2>Process</h2> |
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| <li>JSDT Incubating sub-project or new component?</li> |
| <p>I recommend to just avoid the term "incubating", that's now a |
| very significant term with the new IP process for incubating |
| sub-projects, so, some think "incubating component" could be confusing |
| or misinterpreted. But, I think none of us assumed any IP signficance to it. Agreed? </p> |
| <p>If we agree, I've asked Phil to remove "incubating" from the <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/ATF/JSDT">component proposal</a> and |
| to remove "ATF" from the URL.</p> |
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| <p>All agreed. David will create component (CVS and bugzilla).</p> |
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| <li>Finalize decision on Generics in common.facets</li> |
| <p>The issue is the need for PMC to keep facet's at 1.4 level? |
| Proposed to allow Kosta to be able to propose a change to the committers? Agreed? |
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| <p>All present agreed. As previously mentioned, Naci was not present. Not clear yet if this can |
| go in for M5. Seems unlikely, but could go in for early M6, provided other committers agree.</p> |
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| <li>We need a Phoenix Test/Roll out plan: volunteers?</li> |
| <p>Bob to submit a patch later this week. PMC to review patch and vote next Tuesday. |
| Jess has done a short review, but others should follow, especially to ensure that no |
| parts of the website are inaccessible under the new design.</p> |
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| <h2>Release progress</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>1.5.3 final tests this week</li> |
| <li>Please watch <a |
| href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.5.3/pmc-bug-approval.php">PMC |
| Review List</a> |
| <li>Please review/improve our <a |
| href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_2.0_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Europa">Ramp |
| down Plan for Europa</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Dali (Neil)</h2> |
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| <li>Preparing for incubation review</li> |
| <li>David: Where should Dali go? project under WTP, component under JST?</li> |
| <li>Neil: for now, JST component seems correct. We'll watch Sun and see if they |
| decide to incorporate JPA into JSE in the future.</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <h2>JSF (Raghu)</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Preparing for incubation review</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <h2>ATF (Phil reporting for Bob)</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Finalizing build and mac support</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <h2>Action Items</h2> |
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| <li>Neil and Raghu to send out slides for incubation review</li> |
| <li>Neil and Raghu to review Europa rampdown plan for their components</li> |
| <li>Jess to send out email once Bob is done with his Phoenix patch. PMC to review before next weeks' call.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>PMC Calendar</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172543">2/7 |
| deadline for move vote</a></li> |
| <li>2/13 PMC review of Graduation Materials</li> |
| <li>2/21 Materials to Community for Review</li> |
| <li>2/28 Graduation Review</li> |
| <li>3/5 EclipseCon 2007</li> |
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| <P><small>Agenda by David Williams, February 6, 2007. |
| Minutes entered by Jess Garms. Please send any corrections needed. </small> |
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