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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 27, 2007 Conference Call</h1>


 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
 Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
 Access code: 3500048# <br />
 <br />
 <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PST / 10am EST</a>
 </p>

 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
 	<li>Tim Wagner: Y</li>
 	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
 	<li>Naci Dai: N</li>
 	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
 	<li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
 </ul>

 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
 	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
 	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
 	<li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
 	<li>Bob Goodman: Y</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Community</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Ready for EclipseCon? Is internet access issue settled?
 	<ul>
 		<li>Raghu found that internet access is available for a $500 fee.</li>
 		<li>David to email Rich and Bjorn with the issue and recommend
 		that they communicate this information to other presenters.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Process</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Remember <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/">Dali
 	and JSF Graduation reviews</a> on Wednesday.
 	<ul>
 		<li>David: Remember that reviews are for meeting Eclipse
 		guidelines, not for feature review.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>
 	<li>Remember no PMC phone meeting next week due to EclipseCon.
 	<ul>
 		<li>There will be an informal breakfast or the like at
 		EclipseCon, day TBD.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>
 	<li>Can we proactively agree to accepting Bob Fraser as web site
 	committer (assuming no negative votes by the 7 day deadline on Friday)?
 	May not be much progress on it until after EclipseCon, but I can at
 	least begin the process.
 	<ul>
 		<li>All approved.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>
 	<li>PMC Calls
 	<ul>
 		<li>Next week, March 6th, cancelled due to EclipseCon.</li>
 		<li>Future meetings will be moved one hour later, allowing those
 		of us on the west coast of the U.S. to sleep to a more reasonable
 		hour.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>

 	<li>JCP item
 	<ul>
 		<li>Neil brought up JCP participation.</li>
 		<li>Summary: we should participate. The JSR could use a tooling
 		rep, especially from the open source world.</li>
 		<li>Question: How to handle? Neil's recommendation: like a new
 		committer. Neil to write up a process proposal and email to the PMC.
 		Also include Janet and/or Bjorn.</li>
 		<li>Question: Should this require project-wide approval, or just
 		from a sub-area. General consensus: this is specialized enough to only
 		require approval from JPA members.</li>
 	</ul>
 	</li>

 </ul>

 <h2>Release progress</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>M5
 	<p>It did have one pretty huge error, where a plugin was not
 	compiling. I think Chuck is still evaluating if a respin is required,
 	or, if the JEE 5 stuff is at an early enough point that a "patch"
 	satisfies current developers (with basically no end-users yet).</p>
 	<p>Update: Chuck says no need for a new M5, the next I-Build will
 	be fine.</p>
 	<p>David: The error going unnoticed will not take place in future
 	builds.</p>
 	</li>
 	<li>1.5.4 Release
 	<p>Is Tim's <a
 		href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01163.html">proposal</a>
 	agreeable to all? If so, we should post for committer/community review
 	to wtp-dev and update project info file.</p>
 	<p>All present agreed. Tim to post proposal to wtp-dev for
 	community review.</p>
 	<p>Jess to update project-info.xml with new release.</p>
 	<p>David has created Bugzilla targets for 1.5.4.</p>
 	</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Dali</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Getting ready for graduation review.</li>
 	<li>Working towards M6.</li>
 	<li>No feedback from community about package names.</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>JSF</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Preparing for EclipseCon.</li>
 	<li>Working towards M6.</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>ATF</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Preparing for EclipseCon.</li>
 	<li>Going to declare a milestone soon. Optimistically hoping for
 	two weeks, but schedule is tight.</li>
 	<li>Eclipse 3.3 preparation.</li>
 	<li>Bob and Phil going to Ajax World.</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Action Items</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>Neil to contact developer community about dependencies to
 	gauge impact of a package name change. Done.</li>
 	<li>Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon on usability. <a
 		href="http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4265">Done</a>.</li>
 	<li>Tim deBoer to send email to community about 1.5.4 plan. Done.</li>
 	<li>Neil to email PMC and Bjorn/Janet about JCP rep plan.</li>
 </ul>


 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>2/28 Graduation Review</li>
 	<li>3/5 EclipseCon 2007</li>
 </ul>

 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a
 	href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/pmc_call_notes.html">meeting
 list</a>.</p>
 <P>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams or
 Jess Garms</P>

 </body>
 </html>
	<html>
	<head>
	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 27, 2007 Conference
	Call</title>
	</head>

	<body>


	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 27, 2007 Conference Call</h1>


	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
	Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
	Access code: 3500048# <br />
	<br />
	<a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PST / 10am EST</a>
	</p>

	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Tim Wagner: Y</li>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: N</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
	</ul>

	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	<li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
	<li>Bob Goodman: Y</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Community</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Ready for EclipseCon? Is internet access issue settled?
	<ul>
	<li>Raghu found that internet access is available for a $500 fee.</li>
	<li>David to email Rich and Bjorn with the issue and recommend
	that they communicate this information to other presenters.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Process</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Remember <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/">Dali
	and JSF Graduation reviews</a> on Wednesday.
	<ul>
	<li>David: Remember that reviews are for meeting Eclipse
	guidelines, not for feature review.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li>Remember no PMC phone meeting next week due to EclipseCon.
	<ul>
	<li>There will be an informal breakfast or the like at
	EclipseCon, day TBD.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li>Can we proactively agree to accepting Bob Fraser as web site
	committer (assuming no negative votes by the 7 day deadline on Friday)?
	May not be much progress on it until after EclipseCon, but I can at
	least begin the process.
	<ul>
	<li>All approved.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li>PMC Calls
	<ul>
	<li>Next week, March 6th, cancelled due to EclipseCon.</li>
	<li>Future meetings will be moved one hour later, allowing those
	of us on the west coast of the U.S. to sleep to a more reasonable
	hour.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>

	<li>JCP item
	<ul>
	<li>Neil brought up JCP participation.</li>
	<li>Summary: we should participate. The JSR could use a tooling
	rep, especially from the open source world.</li>
	<li>Question: How to handle? Neil's recommendation: like a new
	committer. Neil to write up a process proposal and email to the PMC.
	Also include Janet and/or Bjorn.</li>
	<li>Question: Should this require project-wide approval, or just
	from a sub-area. General consensus: this is specialized enough to only
	require approval from JPA members.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>

	</ul>

	<h2>Release progress</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>M5
	<p>It did have one pretty huge error, where a plugin was not
	compiling. I think Chuck is still evaluating if a respin is required,
	or, if the JEE 5 stuff is at an early enough point that a "patch"
	satisfies current developers (with basically no end-users yet).</p>
	<p>Update: Chuck says no need for a new M5, the next I-Build will
	be fine.</p>
	<p>David: The error going unnoticed will not take place in future
	builds.</p>
	</li>
	<li>1.5.4 Release
	<p>Is Tim's <a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01163.html">proposal</a>
	agreeable to all? If so, we should post for committer/community review
	to wtp-dev and update project info file.</p>
	<p>All present agreed. Tim to post proposal to wtp-dev for
	community review.</p>
	<p>Jess to update project-info.xml with new release.</p>
	<p>David has created Bugzilla targets for 1.5.4.</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Dali</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Getting ready for graduation review.</li>
	<li>Working towards M6.</li>
	<li>No feedback from community about package names.</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>JSF</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Preparing for EclipseCon.</li>
	<li>Working towards M6.</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>ATF</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Preparing for EclipseCon.</li>
	<li>Going to declare a milestone soon. Optimistically hoping for
	two weeks, but schedule is tight.</li>
	<li>Eclipse 3.3 preparation.</li>
	<li>Bob and Phil going to Ajax World.</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Neil to contact developer community about dependencies to
	gauge impact of a package name change. Done.</li>
	<li>Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon on usability. <a
	href="http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4265">Done</a>.</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer to send email to community about 1.5.4 plan. Done.</li>
	<li>Neil to email PMC and Bjorn/Janet about JCP rep plan.</li>
	</ul>


	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>2/28 Graduation Review</li>
	<li>3/5 EclipseCon 2007</li>
	</ul>

	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a
	href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/pmc_call_notes.html">meeting
	list</a>.</p>
	<P>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams or
	Jess Garms</P>

	</body>
	</html>