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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 20, 2007 Conference Call</h1>


 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
 Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
 Access code: 3500048# <br />
 <br />
 <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 8am PDT / 11am EDT</a>
 </p>

 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
     <li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Community</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>EclipseLink Project: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipselink/">http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipselink/</a>.
     	<p>Neil gave an overview:</p>
     	<ul>
     		<li>New incubating top-level project</li>
     		<li>Persistence platform based on OSGi</li>
     		<li>Infrastructure only, no tooling plan yet</li>
     		<li>Expect JAXB tooling in WTP in the future</li>
     		<li>Relationship to DTP not clear yet</li>
     	</ul>
     	<p>Jess: WTP has historically been runtime-agnostic.
     	We'll have to keep our eye on this and discuss further.</p>
     </li>
 </ul>

 <h2>Process</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>JSF project would like to use Java 5.
     One reason is that it is the best opportunity to move to the latest version since
     this is our first release and we don't have any backward compatibility / adopter breakage issues.
     <ul><li>All approved</li></ul>
     <br>&nbsp;
     </li>
     <li>1.5.4 PMC review: Do we need more specific description of what constitutes stop-ship in 1.5.4?
     Please review the following request for 1.5.4,  <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172339">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172339</a>
     <ul>
     	<li>David: Critical, unusual but necessary bug fix. Will have adopted mark it as a hot bug</li>
     	<li>Raghu: Seems like features are going into the 1.5 line. Should we change the workding re: what
     	constitutes a stop-ship bug in 1.5.4?</li>
     	<li>David: We could, but there will always be some exceptions. Let's continue
     	to discuss these as they come up.</li>
     </ul>

     </li>

 </ul>

 <h2>Quality</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Neil has put up a wiki page:
     <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Quality">
     http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Quality</a>. We'll discuss in next meeting.</li>
     <li>David: We need a concise answer to, "How do we ensure WTP's quality?"</li>

 </ul>

 <h2>Release Progress</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>2.0
     	<ul>
     	<li>JUnit tests are running again</li>
     	<li>Should we combine WTP, JSF and JPA? Yes for now. May need a future
     	packaging of JPA for non-web-apps</li>
     	<li>David: M6 for all-in-one</li>
     	</ul>
     </li>
     <li>1.5.4
     	<ul>
     	<li>First week for tested I-Builds</li>
     	</ul>
     </li>

 </ul>

 <h2>Action Items</h2>
 <ul>
 	<li>PMC members to review Quality wiki from Neil.</li>
     <li>Neil to put together a plan for JCP involvement, and email
     it to the PMC, Bjorn and Janet.</li>
     <li>Jess to email Rich Gronback with EclipseCon feedback and
     questions about a post-mortem.</li>
     <li>Raghu to email components leads and update 2.0 requirements
     page.</li>
     <li>David to email wtp-dev list with latest PMC changes.</li>
 </ul>


 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>WTP 2.0 M6: 4/6 (3/23 + 2) See <a
         href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Simultaneous_Release">Europa
     Release Plan</a></li>
     <li>Submission Deadline: April 13, 2007 for <a
         href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">EclipseWorld 2007, NOV.
     6-8, RESTON, VA</a></li>
     <li>1.5.4 release: May 4, 2007 See <a
         href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg05082.html">1.5.4
     Release Plan</a></li>
 </ul>

 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a
     href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/pmc_call_notes.html">meeting
 list</a>.</p>
 <P>Please send any additions or corrections to Jess Garms or David Williams</P>

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	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 20, 2007 Conference Call</title>
	</head>

	<body>


	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 20, 2007 Conference Call</h1>


	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
	Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
	Access code: 3500048# <br />
	<br />
	<a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 8am PDT / 11am EDT</a>
	</p>

	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	<li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Community</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>EclipseLink Project: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipselink/">http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipselink/</a>.
	<p>Neil gave an overview:</p>
	<ul>
	<li>New incubating top-level project</li>
	<li>Persistence platform based on OSGi</li>
	<li>Infrastructure only, no tooling plan yet</li>
	<li>Expect JAXB tooling in WTP in the future</li>
	<li>Relationship to DTP not clear yet</li>
	</ul>
	<p>Jess: WTP has historically been runtime-agnostic.
	We'll have to keep our eye on this and discuss further.</p>
	</li>
	</ul>

	<h2>Process</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>JSF project would like to use Java 5.
	One reason is that it is the best opportunity to move to the latest version since
	this is our first release and we don't have any backward compatibility / adopter breakage issues.
	<ul><li>All approved</li></ul>
	<br>
	</li>
	<li>1.5.4 PMC review: Do we need more specific description of what constitutes stop-ship in 1.5.4?
	Please review the following request for 1.5.4, <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172339">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=172339</a>
	<ul>
	<li>David: Critical, unusual but necessary bug fix. Will have adopted mark it as a hot bug</li>
	<li>Raghu: Seems like features are going into the 1.5 line. Should we change the workding re: what
	constitutes a stop-ship bug in 1.5.4?</li>
	<li>David: We could, but there will always be some exceptions. Let's continue
	to discuss these as they come up.</li>
	</ul>

	</li>

	</ul>

	<h2>Quality</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Neil has put up a wiki page:
	<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Quality">
	http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_Quality</a>. We'll discuss in next meeting.</li>
	<li>David: We need a concise answer to, "How do we ensure WTP's quality?"</li>

	</ul>

	<h2>Release Progress</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>2.0
	<ul>
	<li>JUnit tests are running again</li>
	<li>Should we combine WTP, JSF and JPA? Yes for now. May need a future
	packaging of JPA for non-web-apps</li>
	<li>David: M6 for all-in-one</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li>1.5.4
	<ul>
	<li>First week for tested I-Builds</li>
	</ul>
	</li>

	</ul>

	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>PMC members to review Quality wiki from Neil.</li>
	<li>Neil to put together a plan for JCP involvement, and email
	it to the PMC, Bjorn and Janet.</li>
	<li>Jess to email Rich Gronback with EclipseCon feedback and
	questions about a post-mortem.</li>
	<li>Raghu to email components leads and update 2.0 requirements
	page.</li>
	<li>David to email wtp-dev list with latest PMC changes.</li>
	</ul>


	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>WTP 2.0 M6: 4/6 (3/23 + 2) See <a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Europa_Simultaneous_Release">Europa
	Release Plan</a></li>
	<li>Submission Deadline: April 13, 2007 for <a
	href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">EclipseWorld 2007, NOV.
	6-8, RESTON, VA</a></li>
	<li>1.5.4 release: May 4, 2007 See <a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg05082.html">1.5.4
	Release Plan</a></li>
	</ul>

	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a
	href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/pmc_call_notes.html">meeting
	list</a>.</p>
	<P>Please send any additions or corrections to Jess Garms or David Williams</P>

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