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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 20, 2007 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
 Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
 Access code: 3500048# <br />
 <br />
 <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PST / 10am EST</a></p>
 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Tim Wagner: N</li>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
     <li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Pieter Humphrey: Y</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
     <li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
     <li>Bob Goodman: Y</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Community</h2>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/community/webinars2006.php">Dali Webinar</a>
     <p>February 20, 2007 at 8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 4:00 pm GMT/UTC</p>
     <p>Unfortuntely, the webinar was cancelled due to technical difficulties. It will be rescheduled.</p>
     </li>
     <li>Select winners of <a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg04962.html">offer of
     amazon.com gift certificates</a>
     <p><i>"...a 100.00 Amazon.com gift certificate for your demo and / or short talk submission, drawn at
     random. One winner from each category will be chosen from the final list of accepted, WTP - related short talks /
     demos in the 'web development track'".</i></p>
     <pre>
 	4009  Anatole Tartakovsky  Demo  Rapid Application Development of Rich Internet Applicatio...
 	4014  Phil Berkland  Demo  JavaScript Development Tools
 	4021  Neil Hauge  Demo  Dali Java Persistence API Tools Project
 	4049  Max Rydahl Andersen  Demo  Hibernate Tools  <br />

 	3740  Kaloyan Raev  Short Talk  Provide Java EE 5 design time support via WTP 1.5 and Ecl...
 	4075  Raj Alagumalai  Short Talk  J2EZ - J2EE made easier with BEA Workshop
 	4099  Hari Shankar  Short Talk  Best Practices for Effective Job Support in WTP
 	4165  Jon Ferraiolo  Short Talk  Introducing OpenAjax Alliance
 	</pre>
     <p>David will perform the random drawing and send on results to Pieter.</p>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Process</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Ready for Incubation reviews? Presentations to EMO?
     <p>Incubation reviews to be submitted 2/21. Both are ready to go.</p>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Release progress</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>1.5.3 Release</li>
     <li>M5 Near</li>
     <li>Please review/improve our <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_2.0_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Europa">Ramp
     down Plan for Europa</a>. Neil suggested modifications to rampdown. Proposed new wording:
     <p><i>For M6, we plan to be functionally and API complete and the remaining Release Candidates are for
     (only) fixing bugs, or fixing release required items (such as version numbers, licensing, etc.). An exception to
     this general rule will exist for 1.0 level projects (JPA and JSF), where minor enhancements and other polish items
     will be allowed until RC1 (May 18th).</i></p>
     <p>Wording change approved. Neil will update Wiki.</p>
     </li>
     <li>1.5.4 Release? Approx. May, 2007?
     <p>Concern about time spent. Need to minimize impact to Europa. Nonetheless the value of a 1.5.4 release was
     accepted.</p>
     <p>Proposed: Do integration and smoke-testing less often. Tim deBoer to write up a proposal and send on to the
     PMC.</p>
     <p>All 1.5.4 bugs to be approved by the PMC. Currently expect 20-30 fixes.</p>
     </li>
     <li>3.0 Release? June, 2008?
     <p>Approved that the 2008 WTP release will be called "3.0". (It was felt there was enough new stuff to justify a
     full increment, but, obviously, we do no use this number to signify API breaking change ... that's still entirely
     within the plugin versions.</p>
     <p>FYI, the 2008 release train will be called Ganymede. So, any references to the general 2008 release of the
     Eclipse projects should be 'Ganymede'</p>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Dali</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Webinar today cancelled. Will be rescheduled</li>
     <li>Fixed intermittent M5 bug that was affecting tests. Could now include Dali in build tests.</li>
     <li>Eclipse has formally joined the JCP. The Dali project would like to have an Eclipse rep on JSR 220. Not
     clear how this should be done according to Eclipse rules. Neil to send .pdf the details of how Eclipse
     representatives should deal with standards bodies.</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>JSF</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Smoke testing. Good so far; did discover a platform bug though.</li>
     <li>Ready for M5 other than the aforementioned platform bug.</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>ATF</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>ATF now working on the Mac. Apple recently released a VM update that fixes a number of bugs, and allows ATF
     to work without manually patching the VM.</li>
     <li>Working on merge with Eclipse 3.3.</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>PMC Leadership</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Need to determine ownership of responsibilities, for PMC Lead items as well as others (e.g. requirements
     gathering).</li>
     <li>Meet at EclipseCon; working breakfast one morning.</li>
     <li>Usability came up as an issue. Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon.</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Action Items</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Neil and Raghu to produce and submit .pdf files for graduation review. Should be done 2/21.</li>
     <li>Neil to contact developer community about dependencies to gauge impact of a package name change. Still
     pending.</li>
     <li>Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon on usability.</li>
 </ul>
 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>2/21 Materials to Community for Review</li>
     <li>2/28 Graduation Review</li>
     <li>3/5 EclipseCon 2007</li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="/webtools/development/index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any corrections to David Williams or Jess Garms</p>
 </body>
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	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 20, 2007 Conference Call</title>
	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 20, 2007 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br />
	Alternate: 702-894-2358<br />
	Access code: 3500048# <br />
	<br />
	<a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PST / 10am EST</a></p>
	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Tim Wagner: N</li>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Arthur Ryman: N</li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Pieter Humphrey: Y</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	<li>Jess Garms: Y</li>
	<li>Bob Goodman: Y</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Community</h2>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/community/webinars2006.php">Dali Webinar</a>
	<p>February 20, 2007 at 8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 4:00 pm GMT/UTC</p>
	<p>Unfortuntely, the webinar was cancelled due to technical difficulties. It will be rescheduled.</p>
	</li>
	<li>Select winners of <a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg04962.html">offer of
	amazon.com gift certificates</a>
	<p><i>"...a 100.00 Amazon.com gift certificate for your demo and / or short talk submission, drawn at
	random. One winner from each category will be chosen from the final list of accepted, WTP - related short talks /
	demos in the 'web development track'".</i></p>
	<pre>
	4009 Anatole Tartakovsky Demo Rapid Application Development of Rich Internet Applicatio...
	4014 Phil Berkland Demo JavaScript Development Tools
	4021 Neil Hauge Demo Dali Java Persistence API Tools Project
	4049 Max Rydahl Andersen Demo Hibernate Tools <br />

	3740 Kaloyan Raev Short Talk Provide Java EE 5 design time support via WTP 1.5 and Ecl...
	4075 Raj Alagumalai Short Talk J2EZ - J2EE made easier with BEA Workshop
	4099 Hari Shankar Short Talk Best Practices for Effective Job Support in WTP
	4165 Jon Ferraiolo Short Talk Introducing OpenAjax Alliance
	</pre>
	<p>David will perform the random drawing and send on results to Pieter.</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Process</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Ready for Incubation reviews? Presentations to EMO?
	<p>Incubation reviews to be submitted 2/21. Both are ready to go.</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Release progress</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>1.5.3 Release</li>
	<li>M5 Near</li>
	<li>Please review/improve our <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/WTP_2.0_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Europa">Ramp
	down Plan for Europa</a>. Neil suggested modifications to rampdown. Proposed new wording:
	<p><i>For M6, we plan to be functionally and API complete and the remaining Release Candidates are for
	(only) fixing bugs, or fixing release required items (such as version numbers, licensing, etc.). An exception to
	this general rule will exist for 1.0 level projects (JPA and JSF), where minor enhancements and other polish items
	will be allowed until RC1 (May 18th).</i></p>
	<p>Wording change approved. Neil will update Wiki.</p>
	</li>
	<li>1.5.4 Release? Approx. May, 2007?
	<p>Concern about time spent. Need to minimize impact to Europa. Nonetheless the value of a 1.5.4 release was
	accepted.</p>
	<p>Proposed: Do integration and smoke-testing less often. Tim deBoer to write up a proposal and send on to the
	PMC.</p>
	<p>All 1.5.4 bugs to be approved by the PMC. Currently expect 20-30 fixes.</p>
	</li>
	<li>3.0 Release? June, 2008?
	<p>Approved that the 2008 WTP release will be called "3.0". (It was felt there was enough new stuff to justify a
	full increment, but, obviously, we do no use this number to signify API breaking change ... that's still entirely
	within the plugin versions.</p>
	<p>FYI, the 2008 release train will be called Ganymede. So, any references to the general 2008 release of the
	Eclipse projects should be 'Ganymede'</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Dali</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Webinar today cancelled. Will be rescheduled</li>
	<li>Fixed intermittent M5 bug that was affecting tests. Could now include Dali in build tests.</li>
	<li>Eclipse has formally joined the JCP. The Dali project would like to have an Eclipse rep on JSR 220. Not
	clear how this should be done according to Eclipse rules. Neil to send .pdf the details of how Eclipse
	representatives should deal with standards bodies.</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>JSF</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Smoke testing. Good so far; did discover a platform bug though.</li>
	<li>Ready for M5 other than the aforementioned platform bug.</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>ATF</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>ATF now working on the Mac. Apple recently released a VM update that fixes a number of bugs, and allows ATF
	to work without manually patching the VM.</li>
	<li>Working on merge with Eclipse 3.3.</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>PMC Leadership</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Need to determine ownership of responsibilities, for PMC Lead items as well as others (e.g. requirements
	gathering).</li>
	<li>Meet at EclipseCon; working breakfast one morning.</li>
	<li>Usability came up as an issue. Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon.</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Neil and Raghu to produce and submit .pdf files for graduation review. Should be done 2/21.</li>
	<li>Neil to contact developer community about dependencies to gauge impact of a package name change. Still
	pending.</li>
	<li>Jess to schedule BOF at EclipseCon on usability.</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>2/21 Materials to Community for Review</li>
	<li>2/28 Graduation Review</li>
	<li>3/5 EclipseCon 2007</li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="/webtools/development/index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any corrections to David Williams or Jess Garms</p>
	</body>
	</html>