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| <title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for August 7, 2007 Conference Call</title> |
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| <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for August 7, 2007 Conference Call</h1> |
| <h2>Call Info</h2> |
| <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-484-4232 <br /> |
| Alternate: 702-894-2358<br /> |
| Access code: 3500048# <br /> |
| <br /> |
| <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 8am PDT / 11am EDT</a></p> |
| <h2>Attendees</h2> |
| <h3>PMC Members</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>David Williams: Y</li> |
| <li>Jess Garms: Y</li> |
| <li>Naci Dai: Y</li> |
| <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> |
| <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li> |
| <li>Tim deBoer: N</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Invited Guests</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Bob Goodman (ATF): N</li> |
| <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF, in Bob's stead): Y</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Community</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Recruiting - Jess has reached out to other companies and received an initial positive response.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Process</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>ATF Openness topic from mailing list? |
| <p>See the <a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/atf-dev/msg00266.html">original post</a>, and its |
| follow-up replies.</p> |
| <p>Raghu to put together a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects.</p> |
| </li> |
| <li>JSF libraries and the <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/project-charter.html">WTP charter</a>. Need |
| clarification. |
| <p>All agreed that a charter change is unnecessary. Interpretation of the charter is as follows: We cannot |
| develop tools for just one runtime, and a specific runtime cannot be required. The runtime needs to be swappable. |
| This holds for the JSF case, as Apache MyFaces will also work.</p> |
| </li> |
| <li>Refactoring WTP |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/devProcess/wtpProjects/Refactor%20WTP%20Proposal.pdf"> |
| Latest draft</a></li> |
| <li>Should Releng be under Common? All agreed that it should be separate.</li> |
| <li>All agreed we are ready for public review, later today.</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li>Eclipse Membership on two JCP groups ( JSR-220 and JSR-314) |
| <p>On hold till 8/13. This item should stay on the agenda until it is resolved.</p> |
| </li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Quality</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Bug backlog: not too much progress yet, but it is getting publicized. Neil to have more info next week.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Release Progress</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>3.0 |
| <ul> |
| <li><pre> |
| |
| 0 Milestones +2 Milestones |
| |
| M1 - August 10, 2007 August 24, 2007 |
| M2 - September 21, 2007 October 5, 2007 |
| M3 - November 2, 2007 November 16, 2007 |
| M4 - December 14, 2007 ? |
| M5 - February 8, 2008 ? |
| |
| </pre></li> |
| <li>Ready for <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Main">next steps</a> of requirements |
| process? All agreed. One outstanding item: ATF needs its requirements incorporated.</li> |
| <li>Raghu to email wtp-dev and newsgroup with Requirements info. Neil to post to the Dali newsgroup</li> |
| <li>Raghu to schedule review for 8/14</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li>2.0.1 |
| <ul> |
| <li></li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li>1.5.5 |
| <ul> |
| <li>Ready for RC1?</li> |
| <li>PMC Review continues (See <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.5.5/pmc-bug-approval.php">PMC |
| 1.5.5 Review Summary</a>)</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>ATF Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>XUL Runner API being proposed for publishing outside ATF</li> |
| <li>Having difficulty with the WTP cross-project build. Seems overly complicated.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Action Items</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li> |
| <li>Raghu: notify wtp-dev and newsgroup about Requirements</li> |
| <li>Neil: notify Dali newsgroup about Requirements</li> |
| <li>David: publish WTP Refactoring doc</li> |
| <li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li> |
| <li>David: write up branching plan by 3.0M1.</li> |
| <li>Jess: Propose bug-finding day on the Friday after 3.0M1.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Closed Action Items</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Naci: attempt to arrange a "new committers" meeting for Eclipse Summit Europe</li> |
| <li>Jess: update 2.x wiki with 2.0.x info, merging the two</li> |
| <li>Raghu: email PMC with wording for "proposed" vs "committed" wrt requirements</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>PMC Calendar</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>8/15/2007, 10 AM Eastern. <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/">Eclipse Review</a> of Refactoring |
| Proposal.</li> |
| <li><a href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">EclipseWorld 2007, NOV. 6-8, RESTON, VA</a>.<br /> |
| WTP Presentations (See the complete program for closely related presentations): |
| <ul> |
| <li>David Williams: How to Create Web Applications With Eclipse (Wednesday, Nov. 7, 9:15 am - 10:30 am)</li> |
| <li>Naci Dai: Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 1 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 10:00 am - 11:15 am)<br /> |
| Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 2 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 11:30 am - 12:45 pm)</li> |
| <li>Raghu Srinivasan: Building Great JavaServer Faces Applications With Eclipse Tools (Thursday, Nov. 8, |
| 2:00 pm - 3:15 pm)</li> |
| <li>Shaun Smith: Using the Java Persistence Applications With Eclipse JPA and Dali (Thursday, Nov. 8, 4:00 |
| pm - 5:15 pm)</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007/">Eclipse Summit 2007</a> - October 9-11, 2007<br /> |
| Proposals for talks by July 16, 2007</li> |
| <li><a href="http://www.ossummit.com/index.html">OS Summit Asia</a> - November 26-30</li> |
| <li>WTP 1.5.5 - August 10 RC1, August 31 GA</li> |
| <li>WTP 2.0.1 - September 28th</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <p>Back to <a href="/webtools/development/index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p> |
| <p>Please send any additions or corrections to Jess Garms or David Williams</p> |
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