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<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 30, 2007 Conference Call</h1>
<h2>Call Info</h2>
<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
Access code: 800388# <br />
<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
<br />
<a
href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107&amp;month=10&amp;day=16&amp;year=2007&amp;hour=11&amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>
<p>upcoming DST changes</p>
<ul>
<li>United States and Canada: 4 Nov 2007 DST ends: 02:00 to 01:00</li>
<li>Turkey: 28 Oct 2007 DST ends: 04:00 to 03:00</li>
</ul>
<h2>Attendees</h2>
<h3>PMC Members</h3>
<ul>
<li>David Williams: Y</li>
<li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
</ul>
<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
<ul>
<li>Bob Goodman (ATF): Y</li>
</ul>
<h2>EclipseCon 2008</h2>
<ul>
<li>Soliciting proposals.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Reports and Actions from our PMC Roles</h2>
<h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
<ul>
<li>Discuss <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
<li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
Architecture Working Group</a></li>
</ul>
<h4>Notes</h4>
<p>Tim presented the "role" document. No comments.</p>
<p>Architecture Council:</p>
<ul>
<li>Issues/efforts on "consolidation" of overlap between projects.</li>
<li>Will use 'committers list' to discuss issues. And will set up a white board wiki.</li>
<li>Ideas on new award types:</li>
<li>hack-a-thon at EclipseCon</li>
</ul>
<p>API Definition and Evolution</p>
<ul>
<li>grandfather</li>
<li>put limits on usage of non-API</li>
<li>may be some new tools to assist</li>
</ul>
<p>Packaging</p>
<p>non-api usage between WTP components</p>
<h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
<ul>
<li>in two weeks: discuss <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead
Role</a></li>
</ul>
<h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
<h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
<ul>
<li>Should we re-spin the all-in-ones for 2.0.1. See <a
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203325">bug 203325</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/wtp/incubator/">Incubator Project</a> has now been provisioned. -- will
move status reports to a section of weekly status meeting, unless there are ever "management" issue to discuss.</li>
<li>Any <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council_Agenda">Ganymede Planning</a> issues? I'll be
representing us at Planning Council next week.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Community Relations: David Williams</h3>
<h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
<ul>
<li>Review: <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
<li>See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>ATF Status</h2>
<ul>
<li>Beginning planning meetings to help drive contributions/committers</li>
<li>Met with one adopter ... can maybe help with creating APIs.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Other business?</h2>
<ul>
<li>Jolt Awards? Important?</li>
<li>Skip next Tuesday's meeting? (I'll be at Planning Council meeting).</li>
<li>Get together at EclipseWorld? (I'll be leaving Wednesday evening).
<p>Wednesday morning</p>
</li>
<li>new (incubator) contributions: SAP: not ready yet for web conference, but maybe in a couple of months.
Sopera: will forward email.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>David: Will call for Project Lead vote on <a
href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on Package Visibility</a></li>
<li>David: update 3.0 milestone plans with focus items.</li>
<li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li>
<li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li>
<li>WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership of their own
pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li>
</ul>
<h2>Closed Action Items</h2>
<ul>
<li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring
Proposal</a> <br />
In progress, but moving to "closed" since no further "management" attention required.</li>
</ul>
<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">EclipseWorld 2007, NOV. 6-8, RESTON, VA</a>.<br />
WTP Presentations (See the complete program for closely related presentations):
<ul>
<li>David Williams: How to Create Web Applications With Eclipse (Wednesday, Nov. 7, 9:15 am - 10:30 am)</li>
<li>Naci Dai: Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 1 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 10:00 am - 11:15 am)<br />
Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 2 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 11:30 am - 12:45 pm)</li>
<li>Raghu Srinivasan: Building Great JavaServer Faces Applications With Eclipse Tools (Thursday, Nov. 8,
2:00 pm - 3:15 pm)</li>
<li>Neil Hauge: Using the Java Persistence Applications With Eclipse JPA and Dali (Thursday, Nov. 8, 4:00
pm - 5:15 pm)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li><a href="http://www.ossummit.com/index.html">OS Summit Asia</a> - November 26-30</li>
<li>WTP 3.0 - June 30, 2008<pre>
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