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+<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
+<projectDescription>
+	<name>jst server development</name>
+	<comment></comment>
+	<projects>
+	</projects>
+	<buildSpec>
+	</buildSpec>
+	<natures>
+	</natures>
+</projectDescription>
diff --git a/development/meetingnotes/20041014.txt b/development/meetingnotes/20041014.txt
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+jst server development meeting notes
+
+This file, while dated 20041014 actually covers a number of meeting
+over the last several weeks.
+
+
+20040819 Meeting notes
+
+	Task: (?) someone should try doing "local build" following
+	Naci's instructions, make sure it works ok, and give feedback
+	on directions
+
+	Task: (Gorkem) add unit tests (even if just a few simple onces
+	that show class can be instantiated (and therefore plugin
+	loaded).
+
+	Task: (?) need to incorporate Elipse base "performance unit
+	tests framework" to have regular performance data
+
+20040916 Meeting notes
+
+	Jim des Rivieres presented "how to make platform quality code
+	101". (that can have a long life, etc).
+	his presentation under miscdocuments directory, WTP Server Core APIs.ppt.
+
+	He emphasized difference between API and SPI ... which is not
+	well deliniated in current code.
+
+
+	Later, referred to these web references.
+	Some other API-related resources:
+
+
+	http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-API%20use/eclipse-api-usage-rules.html
+
+	http://eclipse.org/eclipse/development/java-api-evolution.html
+
+	http://dev.eclipse.org/naming.html
+
+
+20040923
+
+	Jim continued his presentation.
+	For server core apis, it would seem more "SPI" would be
+	extension points (and their required interfaces).
+
+	When asked about what type of documentation is good examples
+	of what we should produce, Jim mentioned two levels.
+
+	First, they type of overview, such as that which exists in the
+	Eclipse platforms Developers Guide
+
+	Second, java doc: especially recommended core.resources and
+	relationship to team.
+		also mentioned jdt.core as good example of java doc.
+
+	Task: (?) "developers guide" writeup for server provider and
+	server clients
+
+
+
+
+	Jim asked about JSR's 88 and 77. Its' believed 77 is already
+	in JSK 1.4?
+	No one knew enough to know implications (if they were things
+	we should re-use, or things we had to be compliant with).
+	Naci aggreed to study JSR 77 more
+
+	Task: (Naci) JSR 77 -- what its it, what's implications for
+	us?
+
+	Task: (?) JSR 88 -- what is it and what's implications for us?
+
+	Task?: (?) JMX was mentioned too (but I didn't get what was
+	said).
+
+	Naci mentioned something about difference between 'deploy' and
+	'publish' though I didn't get what it was (here in my notes),
+	Probably because I was rememering how this has been confusing
+	in the past with customers who think we provide a formal
+	deployment
+	system (managing version dependancies, groups of uesrs, etc.)
+	for large IT shops.
+
+20040924
+
+	Short meeting, We had connection trouble, so Naci and Gorkem
+	could not present as planned.
+
+	Marshall Culpepper from jboss.org joined call (on Dallas
+	Time).
+	Task (Marshall Culpepper) provide a JBoss adapter similar to
+	how we have provided tomcat adapters.
+
+	Tim mentioned lots of conversations with Darin Wright on
+	improving launch support, so, for example, can have other
+	launch preferences,
+	a launched page history,
+	I opened feature request
+	https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=75762 to "hold"
+	this area of work, though
+	we will need to be more specific with what we want/need.
+
+
+20041007
+
+
+	short meeting, Naci and Gorkem couldn't join.
+
+	It was announced, though, that Arthur is having a face-face
+	meeting in Toronto with Tim De Boer, Jim des Rivieres, and
+	others from Toronto, in order to make faster progress in
+	designs and making "platform quality apis".
+
+
+20041014
+
+	Gorkem and Naci gave some demo's of "Lomboz-like" generic
+	server support.
+	they had 3 .server files for jboss, jonas, and something else
+	I don't recall.
+
+	The immediate feedback in the meeting was
+
+		1) why couldn't the XML files be "moved" to the
+		extension point model and be part of a plugin?
+		2) even if that was undesirable for some cases/needs,
+		there needs to be an "import" function that reads
+		the file from one place on disk (or internet!?) and
+		places them in metadirectory?, instead of user having
+		to
+		manually copying a file to the right place.
+
+
+	Arthur wondered if this framework was generic enough to be
+	used for a data base server (apache derby) to "publish" stored
+	procedure calls.
+	Naci responded that currently there was actually some J2EE
+	specific  stuff in there now, but in general could be made
+	more generic.
+
+	Naci had some UML diagrams he started to present before we ran
+	out of time.
+	[Naci perhaps you could please put those in miscdocuments, 
+	so we can read/study before next meeting].
+
+	It quickly became apparent that we could not talk about
+	'server tools' design too much further, without addressing
+	the 'flexible project' design, so everyone wanted to start
+	focusing on that in weeks to come.
+
+	After the call, in chat with Jim we decided before we jump
+	right into project support, that we come up with and agree on
+	some use-cases that have been implicit in this discussions. That
+	way we can assign priorities to implementing/testing the use
+	cases. This is critical so that we maintain focus and maintain the
+	right scope of the design and the API. We discussed how it
+	would be desireable to have the use-cases ironed out before the 10/25
+	"focused design meeting".
+
+	Task: (david) create initial rough draft of use cases
+
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