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 | <h1> Eclipse Architecture Council Minutes</h1> | 
 | <p>October 12, Esslingen, Germany</p> | 
 | <table border="0"> | 
 |   <tbody><tr> | 
 |     <td align="center" bgcolor="#cccccc" valign="top"><b>Present</b></td> | 
 |     <td align="center" valign="top"><b>    </b></td> | 
 |     <td align="center" bgcolor="#cccccc" valign="top"><b>Regrets</b></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Doug Schaefer, QNX, Tools PMC</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="center"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="center"><i>no data</i></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Don Ebright, Compuware</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Bjorn Freeman-Benson, Eclipse</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">John Graham, Sybase, DTP</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Richard Gronback, Borland</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Sri Doddapaneni, Intel</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Oisin Hurley, IONA</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Yossi Leon, Zend</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Wenfeng Li, Actuate, BIRT</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Ed Merks, IBM, Modeling</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Kai Nyman, Nokia</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Valentina Popescu, IBM, TPTP</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Michael Scharf, WindRiver, DSDP</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Mark Weitzel, IBM</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">Tim Wagner, BEA</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 |   <tr> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left">David Williams, IBM, WTP</td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |     <td valign="top" align="left"></td> | 
 |   </tr> | 
 | </tbody></table> | 
 | <h2>Minutes / Discussion Items</h2> | 
 | <p><i> (these notes are in logical rather than | 
 | chronological order)</i></p> | 
 | <h3>Public Mailing List Archives</h3> | 
 | <p>The Architecture Council agrees that the eclipse.org-architecture-council@eclipse.org | 
 | mailing list should be archived and the archives open to the public. </p> | 
 | <p><font color="#800080"><u><b>ACTION</b></u></font>: [Bjorn FB] make it so</p> | 
 | <h3>New Mentor Role for Architecture Council</h3> | 
 | <p>After extensive discussion, the group concluded that they did not see | 
 | mentoring new projects as a role for the Architecture Council. The primary | 
 | objection related to the fact that most mentoring seemed to be around | 
 | development process and this is the Architecture Council. The group agreed that | 
 | mentoring was a good idea, if only as a way to extend the Technology and Tools | 
 | PMCs on a temporary assignment basis. Additionally, the members of this council | 
 | would be (for the most part) happy to serve on a new Mentoring Council.</p> | 
 | <h3>Role of the Architecture Council</h3> | 
 | <p>There was a rather lengthy discussion of what the role of the Architecture | 
 | Council should be. Bjorn pointed out that the Council was been rather | 
 | ineffective. Someone brought up that the council needs to have an action focused | 
 | goal. Tim Wagner and others pointed out that meeting a few times a year for a | 
 | few hours does not provide sufficient time to discuss and solve real | 
 | architectural problems.</p> | 
 | <p><font color="#800080"><u><b>ACTION</b></u></font>: [All] Bring ideas for such | 
 | goals to the November conference call.</p> | 
 | <h3>Ask The Architecture Council</h3> | 
 | <p>Michael Scharf and Wenfeng Li will put together an "Ask The Architecture | 
 | Council" forum. Perhaps the forum is just the cross-projects-issues-dev@ | 
 | mailing list and the forum simply needs to be advertised. Irregardless, the idea | 
 | that there is a forum for Committers to engage in a Q&A with the | 
 | Architecture Council.</p> | 
 | <p><font color="#800080"><u><b>ACTION</b></u></font>: [Michael S & Wenfeng | 
 | L] Establish the forum.</p> | 
 | <h3>Catalog of Consumable Components</h3> | 
 | <p>Oisin Hurley and John Graham will start a catalog of consumable components as | 
 | delivered from the individual projects.</p> | 
 | <p><font color="#800080"><u><b>ACTION</b></u></font>: [Oisin H & John G] | 
 | Define the structure of, and begin provisioning, the catalog.</p> | 
 | <h3>JVM Issue</h3> | 
 | <p>Each plug-in should specify its execution environment. The Architecture | 
 | Council is not going to mandate or prohibit individual projects from moving to | 
 | 1.5 as they see necessary to support their customers. For further discussion, | 
 | the reader is referred to the <a href="/org/councils/20060628ACMinutes.php">previous | 
 | council minutes</a>.</p> | 
 | <p><font color="#800080"><u><b>HELD OVER ACTION</b></u></font>: [Ed Merks, Michael Scharf] | 
 | draft the initial wiki page describing the implications of changing to | 
 | 1.5. </p> | 
 | <h3>Monthly Conference Calls</h3> | 
 | <p>It was hard to tell what the consensus was. The group agreed to have a call | 
 | in November for a report on the status of the two initiatives.</p> | 
 | <p>ACTION: [All] Conference call November 9th, 9am PT, noon ET, 6pm CET. <i>    613.287.8000 | 
 | or   866.362.7064<br> | 
 | passcode 874551#</i></p> | 
 | <p><i>Notes taken and posted by Bjorn Freeman-Benson</i></p> | 
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