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|  | <title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 23, 2007 Conference Call</title> | 
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|  | <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 23, 2007 Conference Call</h1> | 
|  | <h2>Call Info</h2> | 
|  | <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br /> | 
|  | Alternate: 770-615-1247<br /> | 
|  | Access code: 800388# <br /> | 
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|  | href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107&month=10&day=16&year=2007&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call | 
|  | Time: 1500 UTC</a></p> | 
|  | <p>upcoming DST changes</p> | 
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|  | <li>United States and Canada: 4 Nov 2007 DST ends: 02:00 to 01:00</li> | 
|  | <li>Turkey: 28 Oct 2007 DST ends: 04:00 to 03:00</li> | 
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|  | <h2>Attendees</h2> | 
|  | <h3>PMC Members</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>David Williams: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Naci Dai: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Tim deBoer: N</li> | 
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|  | <h3>Invited Guests</h3> | 
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|  | <li>Bob Goodman (ATF): Y</li> | 
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|  | <p>These notes don't follow our standard format, since I couldn't send out agenda before the meetiing</p> | 
|  | <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3> | 
|  | <p>Tim couldn't make it, so deferred discussion to 10/30.</p> | 
|  | <h3>Naci Dai trip report from ESE</h3> | 
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|  | Provisioning Symposium | 
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|  | Update mechanism replaced | 
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|  | but, other implications, such as for server adapters | 
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|  | would be good to keep track, and look at using, so we can be sure requirements covered | 
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|  | Server side eclipse | 
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|  | would be interesting to look at tools to aide building server-side applications | 
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|  | main interest, as replacement of JEE, is to provide better modularization. | 
|  | less heavy weight | 
|  | easier to mix/match | 
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|  | but, don't have security (sandbox) model | 
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|  | Recruiting session (WTP and Eclispe in general) | 
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|  | SAP: visual tooling for JEE development. Conceptually similar to Project Explorer, but better. | 
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|  | Sopera: extensions to visual editor, wsdl editor | 
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|  | bpel editing? | 
|  | they are involved STP project | 
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|  | Talks at ESE. approx. 100 people attended talks. | 
|  | <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007/index.php?page=detail/&id=44">Naci</a> | 
|  | <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007/presentations/ESE2007_R1050_WTP_Update_JavaEE.pdf">Kaloyan</a> | 
|  | <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2007/presentations/ESE2007_R1140_WTP_Dali.pdf">Shawn</a> | 
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