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 |             <p>Attending: Naci Dai, Dominique De Vito, Bjorn Freeman-Benson, David Williams, Christophe Ney<br /> | 
 |             Regrets: Arthur Ryman</p> | 
 |             <p><b>Meeting Time</b> by Bjorn</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>Promptness would be appreciated.</li> | 
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 |             <p><b>JBoss Contribution Status</b> by Naci</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>Should we include their binary library; decision is yes if EPL'd</li> | 
 |                 <li>Need to review their code based on the guidelines</li> | 
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 |             <p><b>PHP Project</b> by Dominique</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>Are looking to see if someone wants to start a PHP project under Technology so that we can use | 
 |                 it as an example of how to extend our code, etc. <a href="http://www.phpeclipse.de/">www.phpeclipse.de</a> | 
 |                 looks to have a CPL license - wonder if he is interested in an Eclipse project - one that fits well with | 
 |                 WTP?</li> | 
 |             </ul> | 
 |             <p><b>M4-M5 Milestones and Planning Group </b>by Dominique</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>limited feedback so far</li> | 
 |                 <li>in order to sync up with the 3.1 releases, M4 should be our last milestone</li> | 
 |                 <li>telling people to stay tuned and waiting for refresh</li> | 
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 |             <p><b>Help Wanted Page</b> by Dominique</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>bug filtering, validation, and prioritization</li> | 
 |                 <li>website restructuring</li> | 
 |                 <li>each component should eventually have their own list bugzilla and inbox email aliases</li> | 
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 |             <p><b>Technology PMC SOA Proposal</b> by Bjorn</p> | 
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 |                 <li>reviewed the proposal</li> | 
 |                 <li>concluded that if tools for existing specs, it should be part of WTP</li> | 
 |                 <li>if exploratory, it should be based on WTP</li> | 
 |                 <li>perhaps start as a Technology project and then join WTP as a third-sub-project</li> | 
 |                 <li>timing not so critical; 3-4 months</li> | 
 |             </ul> | 
 |             <p><b>EclipseCon WTP Tutorial</b> by Naci</p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>will look around for a speaker</li> | 
 |             </ul> | 
 |             <p><b>On the Queue for Next Week</b></p> | 
 |             <ul> | 
 |                 <li>'Making noise' by Mitch</li> | 
 |                 <li>M2 Milestone planning by Bjorn | 
 |                 <ul> | 
 |                     <li>Features; schedule; testing; releasing</li> | 
 |                 </ul> | 
 |                 </li> | 
 |                 <li>Project granularity by Arthur</li> | 
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 |             <p><font size="-1"><i>Minutes taken by, and posted by, Bjorn Freeman-Benson, November 15, | 
 |             2004</i></font></p> | 
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