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|  | <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for January 11, 2011 Conference Call</h1> | 
|  | <h2>Call Info</h2> | 
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|  | <h2>Attendees</h2> | 
|  | <h3>PMC Members</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David | 
|  | Williams: Y</li> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: Y</li> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan | 
|  | Srinivasan: Y</li> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge: | 
|  | Y</li> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer: | 
|  | N</li> | 
|  | <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan | 
|  | Raev: Y</li> | 
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|  | <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2> | 
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|  | <li>Should we really try and _release_ Libra for Indigo? Plans to | 
|  | use in a product? Ready to use in a product? | 
|  | <p>Yes, there are some pieces thought stable enough, and yes there | 
|  | will be a neeed/use of them (at least some of them).</p> | 
|  | <p>A fall back plan is that if can not be simultaneious with | 
|  | Indigo, could be, say, a month later.</p> | 
|  | <p>Kaloyan will do/lead builds, etc. Will reside in GIT. Libra | 
|  | build will produce feature repository. Using Hudson, Maven, GIT. It is | 
|  | "tagged" (conceptually) by a change list ... rebuilds could be done per | 
|  | change list. Signed. Four part version numbers.</p> | 
|  | <p>But many parties involved ... has taken longer to get going with | 
|  | release review ... might take longer than planned for other pieces to | 
|  | come together.</p> | 
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|  | <li>Thoughts/discussion of long term support for 3.2.x (Helios) | 
|  | stream? | 
|  | <p>IBM adopters/committers would probably like addtional | 
|  | maintenance releases. Oracle probably has no need. SAP probably has no | 
|  | need.</p> | 
|  | <p>Pros/cons mentioned during meeting.</p> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>will it interfere with indigo schedules?</li> | 
|  | <li>Extra work for more unified smoke testing.</li> | 
|  | <li>But good to do unified smoke testing (each project could | 
|  | decide what to do, if anything).</li> | 
|  | <li>Each project would decide how much (if at all) to | 
|  | participate.</li> | 
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|  | <p>Next step: dw to come back with more detailed proposal/dates.</p> | 
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|  | <li>Reminder that <a | 
|  | href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.2.3/pmc-bug-approval.php">PMC | 
|  | Review</a> starts after this weeks build.</li> | 
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|  | <li>JPA Diagram Editor Committers: | 
|  | <p>Neil will start process today.</p> | 
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|  | <li>Naci's yearly report :) | 
|  | <p>Eureka: OSAMI: Mostly Coorporations (some universities) in | 
|  | ?consortium? to foster innovation. Using hybird WTP and OSGi. Naci in | 
|  | second year of three year grant.</p> | 
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|  | <h3>Future Agenda items</h3> | 
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|  | <li>Retrospect Helios quick maintenance release. Does it mean we | 
|  | weren't ready to release? Any way to improve timing in future?</li> | 
|  | <li>Disuss our model and assignments of "PMC Roles". Do they still | 
|  | make sense?</li> | 
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|  | <h3>References</h3> | 
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|  | <li><a | 
|  | href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_32">Continuous | 
|  | Improvement Notes</a></li> | 
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