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|  | <title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 30, 2007 Conference Call</title> | 
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|  | <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 30, 2007 Conference Call</h1> | 
|  | <h2>Call Info</h2> | 
|  | <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br /> | 
|  | Alternate: 770-615-1247<br /> | 
|  | Access code: 800388# <br /> | 
|  | <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br /> | 
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|  | href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107&month=10&day=16&year=2007&hour=11&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call | 
|  | Time: 1500 UTC</a></p> | 
|  | <p>upcoming DST changes</p> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>United States and Canada: 4 Nov 2007 DST ends: 02:00 to 01:00</li> | 
|  | <li>Turkey: 28 Oct 2007 DST ends: 04:00 to 03:00</li> | 
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|  | <h2>Attendees</h2> | 
|  | <h3>PMC Members</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>David Williams: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Naci Dai: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li> | 
|  | <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h3>Invited Guests</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Bob Goodman (ATF): Y</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>EclipseCon 2008</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Soliciting proposals.</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>Reports and Actions from our PMC Roles</h2> | 
|  | <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Discuss <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li> | 
|  | <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP | 
|  | Architecture Working Group</a></li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h4>Notes</h4> | 
|  | <p>Tim presented the "role" document. No comments.</p> | 
|  | <p>Architecture Council:</p> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Issues/efforts on "consolidation" of overlap between projects.</li> | 
|  | <li>Will use 'committers list' to discuss issues. And will set up a white board wiki.</li> | 
|  | <li>Ideas on new award types:</li> | 
|  | <li>hack-a-thon at EclipseCon</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <p>API Definition and Evolution</p> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>grandfather</li> | 
|  | <li>put limits on usage of non-API</li> | 
|  | <li>may be some new tools to assist</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <p>Packaging</p> | 
|  | <p>non-api usage between WTP components</p> | 
|  | <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>in two weeks: discuss <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead | 
|  | Role</a></li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3> | 
|  | <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Should we re-spin the all-in-ones for 2.0.1. See <a | 
|  | href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203325">bug 203325</a></li> | 
|  | <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/wtp/incubator/">Incubator Project</a> has now been provisioned. -- will | 
|  | move status reports to a section of weekly status meeting, unless there are ever "management" issue to discuss.</li> | 
|  | <li>Any <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council_Agenda">Ganymede Planning</a> issues? I'll be | 
|  | representing us at Planning Council next week.</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h3>Community Relations: David Williams</h3> | 
|  | <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Review: <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li> | 
|  | <li>See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>ATF Status</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Beginning planning meetings to help drive contributions/committers</li> | 
|  | <li>Met with one adopter ... can maybe help with creating APIs.</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>Other business?</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>Jolt Awards? Important?</li> | 
|  | <li>Skip next Tuesday's meeting? (I'll be at Planning Council meeting).</li> | 
|  | <li>Get together at EclipseWorld? (I'll be leaving Wednesday evening). | 
|  | <p>Wednesday morning</p> | 
|  | </li> | 
|  | <li>new (incubator) contributions: SAP: not ready yet for web conference, but maybe in a couple of months. | 
|  | Sopera: will forward email.</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>Action Items</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>David: Will call for Project Lead vote on <a | 
|  | href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on Package Visibility</a></li> | 
|  | <li>David: update 3.0 milestone plans with focus items.</li> | 
|  | <li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li> | 
|  | <li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li> | 
|  | <li>WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership of their own | 
|  | pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>Closed Action Items</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring | 
|  | Proposal</a> <br /> | 
|  | In progress, but moving to "closed" since no further "management" attention required.</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | <h2>PMC Calendar</h2> | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li><a href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">EclipseWorld 2007, NOV. 6-8, RESTON, VA</a>.<br /> | 
|  | WTP Presentations (See the complete program for closely related presentations): | 
|  | <ul> | 
|  | <li>David Williams: How to Create Web Applications With Eclipse (Wednesday, Nov. 7, 9:15 am - 10:30 am)</li> | 
|  | <li>Naci Dai: Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 1 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 10:00 am - 11:15 am)<br /> | 
|  | Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 2 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 11:30 am - 12:45 pm)</li> | 
|  | <li>Raghu Srinivasan: Building Great JavaServer Faces Applications With Eclipse Tools (Thursday, Nov. 8, | 
|  | 2:00 pm - 3:15 pm)</li> | 
|  | <li>Neil Hauge: Using the Java Persistence Applications With Eclipse JPA and Dali (Thursday, Nov. 8, 4:00 | 
|  | pm - 5:15 pm)</li> | 
|  | </ul> | 
|  | </li> | 
|  | <li><a href="http://www.ossummit.com/index.html">OS Summit Asia</a> - November 26-30</li> | 
|  | <li>WTP 3.0 - June 30, 2008<pre> | 
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|  | 0 Milestones                    +2 Milestones | 
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|  | M1 - August 10, 2007               August 24, 2007 | 
|  | M2 - September 21, 2007            October 5, 2007 | 
|  | M3 - November 2, 2007              November 16, 2007 | 
|  | M4 - December 14, 2007             January 8, 2008 | 
|  | M5 - February 8, 2008              February 22, 2008 | 
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