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+<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #2019-13</h1>
+<div id="toc" class="toc2">
+<div id="toctitle">Table of Contents</div>
+<ul class="sectlevel1">
+<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
+<li><a href="#action-items">Action Items</a></li>
+<li><a href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a>
+<ul class="sectlevel2">
+<li><a href="#names">Names</a></li>
+<li><a href="#scopes">Scopes</a></li>
+</ul>
+</li>
+<li><a href="#javax-namespace-issue">Javax Namespace Issue</a></li>
+<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div id="content">
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Date: 2019-06-18</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Present:</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Dmitry</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Kevin</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Steve</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Wayne</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>David</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Tanja</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ed (observer)</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="action-items"><a class="anchor" href="#action-items"></a><a class="link" href="#action-items">Action Items</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Reviewed, discussed and updated the GitHub Issues, <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues</a>.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="jakarta-ee-8"><a class="anchor" href="#jakarta-ee-8"></a><a class="link" href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-projects-creation"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-projects-creation"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13" class="bare">https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Discussed creating a spreadsheet with projects, specifications, new and old names + scope statements.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="sect2">
+<h3 id="names"><a class="anchor" href="#names"></a><a class="link" href="#names">Names</a></h3>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>All ready for review except the Stable APIs project</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<div class="title">Scopes and names here</div>
+<p><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B7CCkxS-euNzi4VFLSBolgoiICBLScm60zTVsh4E70g/edit#" class="bare">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B7CCkxS-euNzi4VFLSBolgoiICBLScm60zTVsh4E70g/edit#</a></p>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect2">
+<h3 id="scopes"><a class="anchor" href="#scopes"></a><a class="link" href="#scopes">Scopes</a></h3>
+
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="javax-namespace-issue"><a class="anchor" href="#javax-namespace-issue"></a><a class="link" href="#javax-namespace-issue">Javax Namespace Issue</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>We should create a list for each project what dependencies it has. Reach out to the projects and ask them to do this.
+Continue this discussion next week.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Tuesday, Jun 25 at 17:00 CEST (11:00 EDT)</p>
+</div>
+</div>
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+<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #2019-14</h1>
+<div id="toc" class="toc2">
+<div id="toctitle">Table of Contents</div>
+<ul class="sectlevel1">
+<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
+<li><a href="#action-items">Action Items</a></li>
+<li><a href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a></li>
+<li><a href="#eclipse-yasson-project">Eclipse Yasson Project</a></li>
+<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div id="content">
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Date: 2019-06-25</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Present:</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Kevin</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Dmitry</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>David</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Wayne</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ivar</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="action-items"><a class="anchor" href="#action-items"></a><a class="link" href="#action-items">Action Items</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Reviewed, discussed and updated the GitHub Issues, <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues</a>.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="jakarta-ee-8"><a class="anchor" href="#jakarta-ee-8"></a><a class="link" href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-projects-creation"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-projects-creation"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13" class="bare">https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Discuessed the need for creating an issue to merge the security projects to contain all security related specs. JACC, jaspic and security api.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-documents"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-documents"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Concern that project (leads) do not know what to update in the spec docs.
+We should provide some guidance to the project leads about what they need to do.
+The docs will be standard boilerplate. Will be on the steering committee</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="eclipse-yasson-project"><a class="anchor" href="#eclipse-yasson-project"></a><a class="link" href="#eclipse-yasson-project">Eclipse Yasson Project</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Encourage participation from Payara and Red Hat.
+Oracle’s intention is to support Yasson in the future.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Tuesday, Jul 02 at 17:00 CEST (11:00 EDT)</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
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+<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #2019-15</h1>
+<div id="toc" class="toc2">
+<div id="toctitle">Table of Contents</div>
+<ul class="sectlevel1">
+<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
+<li><a href="#action-items">Action Items</a></li>
+<li><a href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a></li>
+<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div id="content">
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Date: 2019-07-02</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Present:</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Mark</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Kevin</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Dmitry</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Kenji</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Wayne</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>David</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ed (observer)</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ed (observer)</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="action-items"><a class="anchor" href="#action-items"></a><a class="link" href="#action-items">Action Items</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Reviewed, discussed and updated the GitHub Issues, <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues</a>.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="jakarta-ee-8"><a class="anchor" href="#jakarta-ee-8"></a><a class="link" href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-projects-creation"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-projects-creation"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13" class="bare">https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Round 1 - completed<br>
+Round 2 - completed<br>
+Round 3 - complete tomorrow + a JSF project</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-documents"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-documents"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<div class="title">Instructions</div>
+<p><a href="https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_Prepare_API_Projects_to_Jakarta_EE_8_Release" class="bare">https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_Prepare_API_Projects_to_Jakarta_EE_8_Release</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist checklist">
+<ul class="checklist">
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-square-o"></i> Create Issue in each project with ref to the above document a checkbox list with the items - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-square-o"></i> Create a tracking board - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-square-o"></i> Email on the PMC list + jakarta community list - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-square-o"></i> Each pmc member emails the project leads in their organization</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-square-o"></i> Assist the projects and follow up progress - ALL</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>For future, request to create a spec lead mailing list - David - <strong>DONE</strong></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=548876" class="bare">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=548876</a></p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Tuesday, Jul 09 at 17:00 CEST (11:00 EDT)</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
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+<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #2019-16</h1>
+<div id="toc" class="toc2">
+<div id="toctitle">Table of Contents</div>
+<ul class="sectlevel1">
+<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
+<li><a href="#action-items">Action Items</a></li>
+<li><a href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></li>
+<li><a href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a>
+<ul class="sectlevel2">
+<li><a href="#licenses">Licenses</a></li>
+<li><a href="#versioning">Versioning</a></li>
+</ul>
+</li>
+<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div id="content">
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Date: 2019-07-09</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Present:</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Kevin</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Dmitry</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>David</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ivar</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="action-items"><a class="anchor" href="#action-items"></a><a class="link" href="#action-items">Action Items</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Reviewed, discussed and updated the GitHub Issues, <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues</a>.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="jakarta-ee-8"><a class="anchor" href="#jakarta-ee-8"></a><a class="link" href="#jakarta-ee-8">Jakarta EE 8</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-projects-creation"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-projects-creation"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-projects-creation">Specification Projects Creation</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13" class="bare">https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/13</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Round 1 - completed<br>
+Round 2 - completed<br>
+Round 3 - awaiting status from Wayne</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="specification-documents"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-documents"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-documents">Specification Documents</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<div class="title">Instructions</div>
+<p><a href="https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_Prepare_API_Projects_to_Jakarta_EE_8_Release" class="bare">https://wiki.eclipse.org/How_to_Prepare_API_Projects_to_Jakarta_EE_8_Release</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist checklist">
+<ul class="checklist">
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-check-square-o"></i> Create Issue in each project with ref to the above document a checkbox list with the items - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-check-square-o"></i> Create a tracking board - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-check-square-o"></i> Email on the PMC list + jakarta community list - Ivar</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-check-square-o"></i> Each pmc member emails the project leads in their organization</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p><i class="fa fa-check-square-o"></i> Assist the projects and follow up progress - ALL</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>David suggested automating the creation of boilerplate specifications.
+Volunteered to create a descriptor file for spec projects to use for scripting and a script to generate PRs in the spec repos for boilerplate specs.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<div class="title">Tracking</div>
+<p><a href="https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/15" class="bare">https://github.com/orgs/eclipse-ee4j/projects/15</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>The skeleton spec documents are a requirement for the Jakarta EE 8 release!
+Suggestion to shorten the review period for the specs in order to be able to make it. Will bring it to the specification committee.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="sect2">
+<h3 id="licenses"><a class="anchor" href="#licenses"></a><a class="link" href="#licenses">Licenses</a></h3>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Should everything in a github repo have the same license?
+In the spec folder, there is a different license, pom.xml and project itself.
+What is the right approach?
+Dmitry posts on the pmc list.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Question for Wayne for clarification.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<div class="title">Clarification</div>
+<p><em>Generally yes. It&#8217;s just generally better for consumers of content to have everything under as uniform a license as possible.</em></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><em>But it is common for examples or configuration to be under a EDL, for example.</em></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><strong>Why are there different licenses?</strong> <em>The source for the specification document should be under the project license (the distribution form of the document in the Final Specification will be under the EFSL).</em></p>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect2">
+<h3 id="versioning"><a class="anchor" href="#versioning"></a><a class="link" href="#versioning">Versioning</a></h3>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Planning to release spec using the same version number.
+API jars have different versions.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Discussed wheter the PMC shouold recommend anything, e.g.:</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Spec+API have same version</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Umbrella spec ref other specs by major.minor</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>patch/service releases may never change the api</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Tuesday, Jul 16 at 17:00 CEST (11:00 EDT)</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
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