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+<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #12</h1>
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+<div id="toctitle">Table of Contents</div>
+<ul class="sectlevel1">
+<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
+<li><a href="#project-proposals">Project Proposals</a></li>
+<li><a href="#spec-vs-api-projects">Spec vs API projects</a></li>
+<li><a href="#status">Status</a></li>
+<li><a href="#duke-images">Duke Images</a></li>
+<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
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+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Date: 2018-04-24</p>
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+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Present:</p>
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+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Dmitry</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Kevin</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Wayne</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Steve</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>David</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Ivar</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="project-proposals"><a class="anchor" href="#project-proposals"></a><a class="link" href="#project-proposals">Project Proposals</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Projects listed as proposals can still be edited (committers added).
+Until EOD Wednesday.
+Last batch of proposals will be pushed through May 1.</p>
+</div>
+<div class="ulist">
+<ul>
+<li>
+<p>Eclipse Project for JPA<br>
+Add committers</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Eclipse ORB<br>
+Leader missing.
+Payara will provide a leader. Ask Fujitsu for committers (even leader?).
+Dmitry will send link to steering committee.</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Eclipse SAAJ<br>
+Put metro-saaj (impl) to Metro
+Discussion around naming, decided to keep the name.</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Eclipse Metro<br>
+Metro can contain the RIs for saaj, jax-ws</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>Eclipse Jakarta EE Platform<br>
+Discussion around the content of this one. May also contain parent pom for Jakarta EE projects
+EE4J parent is under EE4J top-level project.
+Decision: All PMC members should be project leads for this project.</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>JAX-WS<br>
+Consists of a bunch of smaller repos (API, RI and more).
+Decision: extract RIs to another project (Metro).</p>
+</li>
+<li>
+<p>JAX-B<br>
+Situation same as jax-ws, split out RI to separate project.</p>
+</li>
+</ul>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="spec-vs-api-projects"><a class="anchor" href="#spec-vs-api-projects"></a><a class="link" href="#spec-vs-api-projects">Spec vs API projects</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Discussion regarding licensing of specs. An issue for spec committee.
+Add committers and leads within the end of this week.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="status"><a class="anchor" href="#status"></a><a class="link" href="#status">Status</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>EDL Licensing of some of the projects.
+Discussion around why is the extra license required.
+Components are part of SE, proposal is to add EDL.
+Must be approved by Eclipse Board of Directors.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="duke-images"><a class="anchor" href="#duke-images"></a><a class="link" href="#duke-images">Duke Images</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p><a href="https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg00234.html">Mailing list discussion</a></p>
+</div>
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Is there some way to allow projects to continue use them?
+Legal advice is that derivative work can not be trademarked.
+Duke is public domain. Use of Duke is fine, but not as project logos.
+Wayne will work with Mike and others at the EF to validate understanding and position.</p>
+</div>
+</div>
+</div>
+<div class="sect1">
+<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
+<div class="sectionbody">
+<div class="paragraph">
+<p>Tuesday May 8 at 17:00 CET.</p>
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