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<h1>EE4J PMC Meeting #23</h1>
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<li><a href="#general">General</a></li>
<li><a href="#action-items">Action Items</a></li>
<li><a href="#maven-coordinates-for-implementation-projects">Maven coordinates for implementation projects</a></li>
<li><a href="#module-names">Module Names</a>
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<li><a href="#specification-projects">Specification Projects</a></li>
<li><a href="#implementation-projects">Implementation Projects</a></li>
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<li><a href="#new-lead-for-common-annotations-project">New lead for Common Annotations project</a></li>
<li><a href="#pmc-members-involvement">PMC members involvement</a></li>
<li><a href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></li>
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<h2 id="general"><a class="anchor" href="#general"></a><a class="link" href="#general">General</a></h2>
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<p>Date: 2018-10-09</p>
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<p>Present:</p>
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<p>Tanja</p>
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<p>Wayne</p>
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<p>Kevin</p>
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<p>Dmitry</p>
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<p>David</p>
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<p>Mark</p>
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<p>Steve</p>
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<p>Ivar</p>
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<h2 id="action-items"><a class="anchor" href="#action-items"></a><a class="link" href="#action-items">Action Items</a></h2>
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<p>Reviewed, discussed and updated the GitHub Issues, <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues</a>.</p>
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<h2 id="maven-coordinates-for-implementation-projects"><a class="anchor" href="#maven-coordinates-for-implementation-projects"></a><a class="link" href="#maven-coordinates-for-implementation-projects">Maven coordinates for implementation projects</a></h2>
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<p>There are some implementations using com.sun and org.glassfish groupIds. We need to make a statement about how to deal with it.
Options are:
Leave it as it is for now and change it in the next GF release (I vote for it)
Change it now to something eclipse/ee4j related</p>
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<p>Recommend using standard Eclipse groupIds like: org.eclipse.&lt;projectname&gt; for the next GlassFish release. Use existing for this upcoming release (if the current TM owners are ok with it).</p>
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<h2 id="module-names"><a class="anchor" href="#module-names"></a><a class="link" href="#module-names">Module Names</a></h2>
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<p><a href="https://www.eclipse.org/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg01229.html" class="bare">https://www.eclipse.org/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg01229.html</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://www.eclipse.org/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg01195.html" class="bare">https://www.eclipse.org/lists/ee4j-pmc/msg01195.html</a></p>
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<h3 id="specification-projects"><a class="anchor" href="#specification-projects"></a><a class="link" href="#specification-projects">Specification Projects</a></h3>
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<p>For the upcoming release, i.e. re-releasing the EE 8 versions, nothing should be changed.
No changes in module names for upcoming release. No module names must be added for this release.</p>
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<p>Decision:
For future releases (master branch), the names should follow a standard, but we are not sure how and by whom this standard should be created.</p>
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<p>Proposal:
One way is that it is derived from a community discussion facilitated by the PMC.
Start of the discussion with a statement where the PMC recommends using “jakarta.*” as module names.</p>
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<h3 id="implementation-projects"><a class="anchor" href="#implementation-projects"></a><a class="link" href="#implementation-projects">Implementation Projects</a></h3>
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<p>The jakarta namespace must not be used for implementation projects. Eclipse standard practices should be used. The PMC suggests “org.eclipse.*” as module name. Present on the mailing list and see how the feedback will be.</p>
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<p>Ivar: Create a GitHub issue and email a link to the issue. One for each of the project types.</p>
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<p>Spec Projects: <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/34" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/34</a></p>
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<p>Implementation Projects: <a href="https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/35" class="bare">https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/ee4j/issues/35</a></p>
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<h2 id="new-lead-for-common-annotations-project"><a class="anchor" href="#new-lead-for-common-annotations-project"></a><a class="link" href="#new-lead-for-common-annotations-project">New lead for Common Annotations project</a></h2>
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<p>Werner Keil and Markus Karg volunteered. The PMC suggest to propose them as co-leads. They must first be voted in as committers. Move discussion to the mailing list.</p>
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<h2 id="pmc-members-involvement"><a class="anchor" href="#pmc-members-involvement"></a><a class="link" href="#pmc-members-involvement">PMC members involvement</a></h2>
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<p>Users are complaining that emails in PMC mailing list are not answered or the response is slow.</p>
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<p>PMC members are encouraged to be more active on the mailing list.</p>
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<h2 id="next-meeting"><a class="anchor" href="#next-meeting"></a><a class="link" href="#next-meeting">Next Meeting</a></h2>
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<p>Tuesday Nov 6 at 17:00 CET<br>
<strong>NOTE that we skip the meeting scheduled during EclipseCon/Code One</strong></p>
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