minutes/2006.03.13.html

<h1>IDE for Laszlo, PTP, Higgins, Lepido, Photran</h1>
<h2>PMC Minutes March 13, 2006</h2>
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      <td>Wayne Beaton</td>
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<p>Ward reported on his conversation with Amy Muntz of the <a href="/laszlo/">IDE for Laszlo</a>  
project. She said that the team responsible for the open source projects in the
company had been sucked back into the commercial products for a while. They hope
to make a bigger announcement at EclipseCon. They are staffing up by two FTEs
for the project; Ward will remind them that they should be recruiting other
people rather than/in addition to staffing up.</p>

<p>Cliff reported on his email exchange with the <a href="/ptp/">Parallel Tools Project</a>.
He sent an email, got a reply. The reply was along the lines of &quot;PTP is
sufficiently different that the normal community growing techniques don't
apply&quot;. The PMC either doesn't understand or doesn't agree, so Cliff will
follow up with a phone call.</p>

<p>Bjorn reported on his conversation with Paul Trevithick and Mary Ruddy of the
<a href="/higgins/">Higgins</a>   project. They agreed that they appear to be
&quot;not very Eclipse&quot; and they will work on being more a part of the
community. They will start with having an Eclipse website and (at least Eclipse
logos on) the wiki and the infrastructure. They will move their requirements
gathering to bugzilla, etc. They also asked for help dealing with their
&quot;overnight&quot; success; we agreed to do so.</p>

<p>Wayne reported on the effect of his email to the <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/">Lepido,
Tools for Apache Cocoon</a> project. He provoked <a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/lepido-dev/msg00057.html">this
response on the mail list</a>, &quot;We had planned to take a decision on the future of
Lepido, ... I'll report the outcome of our internal discussions<br>
in the coming days.&quot; and <a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.technology.lepido/msg00132.html">this
on the newsgroup</a> (we appreciate the sentiment, thought, and candor in that
post).</p>

<p>John reported on his examination of the public face of the <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/photran/">Photran</a>
project. We know that they have code, but their Eclipse-public face is
non-existent. The mailing list, for example, has one message: the
welcome-to-the-list message. The bug system is similarly almost empty. We know
that work is going on (e.g., an <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=163">EclipseCon
tutorial</a>), but it's just not going on in a way that is linked from
eclipse.org. John will talk to them and find out what's going on.</p>

<p>The PMC will attempt to meet with all the members of all the Technology
projects while we are at <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/">EclipseCon</a>
next week.</p>

<p>No PMC meetings on the 20th (EclipseCon) or 27th (recovering from EclipseCon).
We will meet again on April 3rd and we will be reviewing the ECESIS project.</p>

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<p>Current project mentors:</p>

<ul>
  <li>Bjorn
    <ul>
      <li> <a href="/higgins/">Higgins</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li>Cliff
    <ul>
      <li><a href="/ptp/">Parallel Tools Project</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li>Ward
    <ul>
      <li> <a href="/vtp/">Voice Tools Project</a></li>
      <li><a href="/laszlo/">IDE for Laszlo</a> </li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li>Wayne
    <ul>
      <li> <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/">Lepido,
Tools for Apache Cocoon</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li>John
    <ul>
      <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/photran/">Photran</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
</ul>
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