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                 face="Arial,Helvetica">PMC Conference Call - October 25, 2005</font></b></td>
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             <td>Attending: Tim Wagner [TW], Arthur Ryman [AR], Raghunathan Srinivasan [RS], Carl Trieloff (Invited
             to speak on SOA / WTP overlap), Karl Reti (also on the STP PMC), Christophe Ney [CN], Jochen Krause [JK] <!--PMC MEMBERS NOT PRESENT ON THIS CALL:
         Naci Dai [ND],

 		David Williams [DW],
 		Lawrence Mandel [LM],
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             <h1>WTP PMC Minutes for October 25, 2005 Conference Call</h1>
             <h2>WTP / SOA Discussion [Carl Trieloff]</h2>
             <ul>
                 <li>Carl provided a brief overview of the SOA project, its status, and the proposal scope.</li>
                 <li>Additional subprojects being added to incorporate more services, some of which are driven by
                 others joining the project. Expect to start working in mid-November.</li>
                 <li>Some preliminary notes on surface area with WTP:
                 <ul>
                     <li>WSDL and XML Schema are used for contract design within STP; editing and validation would
                     be used directly. Validation extensions are needed, and would work within the existing WTP
                     validation framework (the extensions themselves would likely live in STP).</li>
                     <li>WSDL code generation; framework belongs in WTP, extensions depend on the genericity of
                     their application.</li>
                     <li>WS-Security is within the scope of WTP, but currently unresourced. Other WS-* standards are
                     similar. SOA network level security is not necessarily representative of WS-Security, and that
                     modeling/tooling would reside in STP.</li>
                     <li>J2EE deployment is one deployment extension point for STP; this would exploit existing WTP
                     extension points.</li>
                     <li>Extension to TCP/IP monitoring to provide SOAP message monitoring (WSDL-aware viewing of
                     the traffic.)</li>
                     <li>Code generation framework - unclear on exactly how the breakdown would go, although Iona
                     has some code they may be contributing in this area.</li>
                 </ul>
                 </li>
                 <li>Should cross pollinate at the architecture group level (will connect with David).</li>
             </ul>
             <h2>Procedural</h2>
             <ul>
                 <li>IP log begun; will need to spend time on this over the next two weeks to get ready for the 1.0
                 release view.</li>
                 <li>Speaking of which...we need to schedule the WTP 1.0 release review.</li>
                 <li>Need to follow up with John Graham on WTP/DTP migration plans for RDB APIs. Setting up call
                 with Arthur and John to discuss this further.</li>
                 <li>WTP charter modifications accepted in last week's Board review; will post updated version to
                 website and notify EMO.</li>
             </ul>
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             <h2>Action Items</h2>
             <ul>
                 <li>[TW, etc.] Continue work on IP log.</li>
                 <li>[TW] Release review the week of 11/14 scheduled.</li>
                 <li>[TW] Post new WTP Charter to Website and notify EMO.</li>
                 <li>[TW] Need release train planning document - push Planning Council to produce this (email sent;
                 tracking status).</li>
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             <small>Minutes taken by Tim Wagner, October 25, 2005</small></td>
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	<td>Attending: Tim Wagner [TW], Arthur Ryman [AR], Raghunathan Srinivasan [RS], Carl Trieloff (Invited
	to speak on SOA / WTP overlap), Karl Reti (also on the STP PMC), Christophe Ney [CN], Jochen Krause [JK] <!--PMC MEMBERS NOT PRESENT ON THIS CALL:
	Naci Dai [ND],

	David Williams [DW],
	Lawrence Mandel [LM],
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	<h1>WTP PMC Minutes for October 25, 2005 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>WTP / SOA Discussion [Carl Trieloff]</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Carl provided a brief overview of the SOA project, its status, and the proposal scope.</li>
	<li>Additional subprojects being added to incorporate more services, some of which are driven by
	others joining the project. Expect to start working in mid-November.</li>
	<li>Some preliminary notes on surface area with WTP:
	<ul>
	<li>WSDL and XML Schema are used for contract design within STP; editing and validation would
	be used directly. Validation extensions are needed, and would work within the existing WTP
	validation framework (the extensions themselves would likely live in STP).</li>
	<li>WSDL code generation; framework belongs in WTP, extensions depend on the genericity of
	their application.</li>
	<li>WS-Security is within the scope of WTP, but currently unresourced. Other WS-* standards are
	similar. SOA network level security is not necessarily representative of WS-Security, and that
	modeling/tooling would reside in STP.</li>
	<li>J2EE deployment is one deployment extension point for STP; this would exploit existing WTP
	extension points.</li>
	<li>Extension to TCP/IP monitoring to provide SOAP message monitoring (WSDL-aware viewing of
	the traffic.)</li>
	<li>Code generation framework - unclear on exactly how the breakdown would go, although Iona
	has some code they may be contributing in this area.</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	<li>Should cross pollinate at the architecture group level (will connect with David).</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Procedural</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>IP log begun; will need to spend time on this over the next two weeks to get ready for the 1.0
	release view.</li>
	<li>Speaking of which...we need to schedule the WTP 1.0 release review.</li>
	<li>Need to follow up with John Graham on WTP/DTP migration plans for RDB APIs. Setting up call
	with Arthur and John to discuss this further.</li>
	<li>WTP charter modifications accepted in last week's Board review; will post updated version to
	website and notify EMO.</li>
	</ul>
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	<h2>1.0 Status </h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Plugin version numbers need to be bumped to 1.0?
	<li>How did I-Build timing work out this week?
	<li>New feature breakdown complete for WST?
	</ul>

	<h2>JSF Status </h2>
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	<li>
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	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>[TW, etc.] Continue work on IP log.</li>
	<li>[TW] Release review the week of 11/14 scheduled.</li>
	<li>[TW] Post new WTP Charter to Website and notify EMO.</li>
	<li>[TW] Need release train planning document - push Planning Council to produce this (email sent;
	tracking status).</li>
	</ul>
	<small>Minutes taken by Tim Wagner, October 25, 2005</small></td>
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