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| <title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 07, 2006 Conference Call</title> |
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| <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 07, 2006 Conference Call</h1> |
| <h2>Call Info</h2> |
| <p>Tollfree in the US: 866-214-3176 <br /> |
| Alternate: 404-827-9098 <br /> |
| Access code: 8870689# <br /> |
| <br /> |
| <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/">Call Time: 7am PDT / 10am PDT</a></p> |
| <h2>Attendees</h2> |
| <h3>PMC Members</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Tim Wagner: R</li> |
| <li>David Williams: Y</li> |
| <li>Naci Dai: Y</li> |
| <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> |
| <li>Jochen Krause: R</li> |
| <li>Arthur Ryman: Y</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Invited Guests</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Neil Hauge (JPA/Dali): Y</li> |
| <li>Bob Goodman (AFT): Y</li> |
| <li>Jean Choi: N</li> |
| <li>Rob Frost (proxy for Tim): Y</li> |
| <li>Pieter Humphrey: Y</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Community</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Pieter Humphrey: community activity and status <br /> |
| posts</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3><a |
| href="http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/search-specific.php?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&track_id=4&content=">EclipseCon: |
| Web Development Track</a></h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Tutorials: <a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2007/index.php?page=programcommittee/">Quota</a> is 1 long |
| and 3 short</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Raw notes and rough ordering from today's discussion</h4> |
| <h5>Long Tutorials</h5> |
| <ul> |
| <li>*3581 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial Extending the Web Tools Platform <br /> |
| A good, basic, overall "extending WTP" theme.</li> |
| <li>3668 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial BEA Workshop Studio JPA (Java Persistence API) Tutorial <br /> |
| sounds too focused on Commercial Product, for most Eclipse attendee's tastes</li> |
| <li>3666 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial BEA Workshop for JSF Tutorial <br /> |
| sounds too focused on Commercial Product, for most Eclipse attendee's tastes <br /> |
| but, consider talks in other areas, such as "business" area, for the BEA "blended development model"</li> |
| <li>3637 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial Extending the JavaServer Faces Tools project <br /> |
| good, but long</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h5>Short Tutorials</h5> |
| <ul> |
| <li>*3633 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Building applications with the Java Persistence API and Dali</li> |
| <li>*3654 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Working with the JavaServer Faces Tools Project <br /> |
| Raghu, Cameron, creating and extending (new component library)</li> |
| <li>+3634 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Extending the XML and source editors from the WTP Project <br /> |
| (merge with another? such as Naci and John's long tutorial? con: many interested are not interested in webtools, per |
| se, just XML)</li> |
| <li>+3638 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Java Web Application Development with Eclipse WTP <br /> |
| Naci, Arthur, Lawrence. good, but is it a "in the book" case?</li> |
| <li>+3576 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Extending the Ajax Toolkit Framework <br /> |
| Philippe. sounds complex -- plus, need to have balance on "building apps" (less on "extending WTP")</li> |
| <li>3625 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Developing Rich Applications with JSF and AJAX <br /> |
| Max, Excedel. Sounds interesting, maybe a little complex for short tutorial? Maybe not so much on Eclipse WTP, per |
| se?</li> |
| <li>3677 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Using the Web Tools Platform in Headless Mode <br /> |
| Sounds interesting to limited audience. Maybe could be "converted" to a long talk?</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Process</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>ACLs added to allow Dali, JSF, and ATF write access to webtools website cvs</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Requirements and 2.0 Planning</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>WTP Requirements call last Thursday. Minutes/Notes?</li> |
| <li><a href="https://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/DTP_Requirements_Council">Please note DTP Requirements Call |
| next week!</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>1.5.2, 1.5.3, and 2.0 Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>1.5.2 released</li> |
| <li>Will need "feature patch" for one blocking bug<br /> |
| (in approximately one week)</li> |
| <li>1.5.3 builds started ... no smoke/tests declares for a bit</li> |
| <li>M3 coming up 11/15 for 2.0.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>JSF status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Use case doc for facets written (see bug)</li> |
| <li>Working on plan -- end of week</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Dali Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Pheonix Website? Arthur to start Phoenix subdirectory for incremental conversion</li> |
| <li>get into wtp build wed., or thur this week</li> |
| <li>SDK builds</li> |
| <li>planning another meeting, after new year</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>ATF Status</h2> |
| <h3>Tech Preview</h3> |
| <p>Planning for the first part of January. We didn't want to do it the at the end of the year, since we were afraid |
| that any announcement wouldn't be noticed with everything going on around Christmas. Also, a lot of team will be out of |
| the office around Christmas. There are two things that we want to get into the Tech Preview which are Mac support and a |
| supported version of Mozilla's XULRunner 1.8.1. There is a lot of demand for Mac, so we thing that this would be a good |
| addition to the Tech Preview. We are using an hand built version of Mozilla's XULRunner 1.8.1. We are working with |
| Mozilla to begin official build of XULRunner 1.8.1, We didn't want to do a Tech Preview with a hand built unsupported |
| version of XULRunner.</p> |
| <h3>APIs Definition</h3> |
| <p>Defining APIs, wasn't consider when considered when developing ATF. We will need to define the API's and then |
| implement them. We have started looking at the areas we want to define API's. We also plan to start a discussion on our |
| listserv, so the community can weigh in on the areas that they consider important for APIs. By the time we are ready to |
| do a Tech Preview, we should know the areas that we want to define APIs, but the API's won't be defined.</p> |
| <h3>JavaScript Editor.</h3> |
| <p>We plan to announce out plan to do a new JavaScript editor. We plan to post a detail proposal to solicit |
| community feedback, possible alternatives, additional project participation, and ways the project can be leveraged from |
| the Eclipse membership-at-large.</p> |
| <h2>Action Items and Owners</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>David: send note to allow access to website, for jsf, dali, and atf committers [done]</li> |
| </ul> |
| <small>Agenda/Minutes by David Williams, November 07, 2006. Please send any corrections needed. </small> |
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