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| <td>PMC Members Attending: Tim Wagner, Raghunathan Srinivasan, David Williams, Arthur Ryman, Jochen |
| Krause, |
| <p>PMC Member Regrets: Naci Dai</p> |
| <p>Invited Guests: Robert Goodman (ATF), Neil Hauge (Dali)</p> |
| <h1>WTP PMC Minutes for September 26, 2006 Conference Call</h1> |
| <h2>Community</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>ESE being held next month; David and Tim will be presenting jointly on WTP.</li> |
| <li>WTP will send out a web-specific CFP as soon as Eclipsezilla is live. [still pending]</li> |
| <li>Tim sending out request for one of the interested parties to take over as default QA rep in |
| Bugzilla for the website and FAQ components.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Process</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Invitation extended to Jean Choi to join PMC calls to coordinate visual editor component |
| creation, staffing, etc. (Though due to my travel, she did not receive the invite early enough for this |
| week's call.)</li> |
| <li>Development process amendments: See David's proposal to wtp-pmc mailing list from last week. |
| General consensus; some additions suggested, so David will re-send with amendments this week.</li> |
| <li>The PMC reviewed the idea of using Instantiations' WindowsTester (TM) product via an Eclipse |
| committer licensing scheme, but elected not to move forward because the member companies as a group were |
| not able to approve internal use of a commercial product as a required part of the build/test cycle. |
| Specific comments from David Williams regarding IBM's concerns: "As a PMC member I'm concerned about the |
| use of Windows Tester in WTP automated testing for the following reasons. First, even if there is a |
| 'free license' granted to all committers, there are many contributors to WTP that are not committers, so |
| that would lock them out of that part of the project. Second, even among committers, there still has to |
| be internal legal review by each parent company for each individual to determine if using that tool is |
| acceptable. Just because its free, and just because there is a 'license granted' does not automatically |
| mean it is acceptable to each company for each individual. Just as an example, a WTP committer might, in |
| their many duties, also work on some product that competes with Windows Tester. So, while it was a good |
| suggestion to consider, given these sorts of complications, it does not seem open enough for such an |
| important part of WTP."</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Requirements and 2.0 Planning</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Lack of detailed component-level plans will make public requirement calls less likely to |
| succeed.</li> |
| <li>1.5.1 activities have delayed production of more detailed component plans, but planning |
| document has been updated to reflect latest thinking. All PMC members should review and update this week |
| in preparation for further component lead edits.</li> |
| <li>Want to reach out to SAP - might be able to use the status calls to engage with them in a more |
| detailed, ongoing manner.</li> |
| <li>Naci setting up STP interlock discussions.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>1.5.1 and 2.0 Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>1.5.1 on track for Friday release.</li> |
| <li>Tim to update website and project meta-info after release.</li> |
| <li>PMC discussed possibility of small interim maintenance release between Callisto updates 1 and |
| 2.</li> |
| <li>Working to get M2 working; some internal API use is currently causing breakage.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>JSF Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Focused last week on library feature and use of facets; planning to publish feature description |
| when this planning completes.</li> |
| <li>Need to work with JSP team to discuss tool changes. Cameron working on design already.</li> |
| <li>Expectation is to have Wiki complete for adopter review in preparation for planning call.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>ATF Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Lightning talk in Dallas was well received.</li> |
| <li>Two possible adopters looking at ATF for possible product use.</li> |
| <li>Bob working with IBM and Eclipse PR to do announcements around ATF.</li> |
| <li>Will be presenting at AJAXWorld and AJAX Experience.</li> |
| <li>Looking into articles for print media.</li> |
| <li>Design and planning around next milestone (content and dates); should have more info next week |
| for PMC and community review.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Dali Status</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>"Round 1" of DTP migration is complete; some limitations and issues have been raised with the |
| DTP team and are being discussed further this week.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Action Items and Owners</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Naci setting up STP interlock discussion.</li> |
| <li>Tim to send out CFP for EclipseCon '07 once EclipseZilla goes live (still pending).</li> |
| <li>Jochen to reach out to add-in providers and WTP requirements group around 2.0 plan.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <small>Minutes taken by Tim Wagner, September 26, 2006. Please notify me of any corrections needed. |
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