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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 4, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 800388# <br />
 <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
     href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=10
 &amp;day=16
 &amp;year=2007
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>
 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: N (regrets)</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
 </ul>
 <!--
 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
 <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
 </ul>
 -->
 <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
 <h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>No progress to report (Naci sent regrets). Will re-visit next week.</li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Previous Notes:</dt>
     <dd>
     <ul>
         <li>Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.</li>
         <li>Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.</li>
         <li>phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios</li>
     </ul>
     </dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>We need a 2.0.2 patch. (and put on update site)</li>
     <li>Schedule? this week? Or else will interfere with EclipseCon?</li>
     <li>As agreed, dw has updated <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process
     document</a></li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>Agreed this week best, to fix before EclipseCon.</dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Good Progress on focus items. (Remember to include these activities in release review.)</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference:</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
     <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>ATF</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>?</li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>?</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
     <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
     Architecture Working Group</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Note: as agreed, dw did update <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.0_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Ganymede">ramp
     down plan</a>, to make sure clear.</li>
     <li>Time to start <b>Io</b> Version?</li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>We may need a mid-year release.</dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h2>General business?</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Committers in the works: Several in ATF project (see Portal): Giuliano Mega, Laurends Vandeput
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>All agreed.</dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
     <li>Requirement Project: http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/ormf/
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>Raghu to respond this week.</dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
     <li>Face-to-face meeting. Sunday will be bad (most getting in too late on Sunday). Need to find some other
     time. Need to create an agenda.
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>Tenatively suggested Monday evening, after awards ceremony.</dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
     <li>Discussed version increment for next year (Io). Decided "3.1", unless there is major additions or something
     breaking. [Added after the meeting, should we consider "3.5"? (to match the platform?)
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>No one liked "3.5" idea.</dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
     <li>Potential resource issues?
     <ul>
         <li>Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen</li>
         <li>Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).</li>
         <li>Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)</li>
         <li>Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps
         ask for community help.</li>
         <li>Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.</li>
     </ul>
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>
         <ul>
             <li>No obvious resouce solutions.</li>
             <li>Needs some JSF features, at least for build</li>
         </dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Action Items</h2>
 <h3>To Do</h3>
 <ol>
     <li>David: Will call for Project Lead vote on <a
         href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on Package Visibility</a></li>
     <li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li>
     <li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li>
     <li>David: post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations page, especially,
     even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit</li>
 </ol>
 <h3>Done</h3>
 <ol>
     <li>Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership
     of their own pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li>
     <li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring
     Proposal</a></li>
     <li>David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.</li>
 </ol>
 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Tentatively plan f2f Sunday before EclipseCon</li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
 </body>
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	<head>
	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 4, 2008 Conference Call</title>
	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for March 4, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 800388# <br />
	<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=10
	&day=16
	&year=2007
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>
	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: N (regrets)</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	</ul>
	<!--
	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
	</ul>
	-->
	<h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
	<h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>No progress to report (Naci sent regrets). Will re-visit next week.</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Previous Notes:</dt>
	<dd>
	<ul>
	<li>Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.</li>
	<li>Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.</li>
	<li>phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios</li>
	</ul>
	</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>We need a 2.0.2 patch. (and put on update site)</li>
	<li>Schedule? this week? Or else will interfere with EclipseCon?</li>
	<li>As agreed, dw has updated <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process
	document</a></li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Agreed this week best, to fix before EclipseCon.</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Good Progress on focus items. (Remember to include these activities in release review.)</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference:</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
	<li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>ATF</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>?</li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>?</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
	<li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
	Architecture Working Group</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Note: as agreed, dw did update <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.0_Ramp_down_Plan_for_Ganymede">ramp
	down plan</a>, to make sure clear.</li>
	<li>Time to start <b>Io</b> Version?</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>We may need a mid-year release.</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h2>General business?</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Committers in the works: Several in ATF project (see Portal): Giuliano Mega, Laurends Vandeput
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>All agreed.</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	<li>Requirement Project: http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/ormf/
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Raghu to respond this week.</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	<li>Face-to-face meeting. Sunday will be bad (most getting in too late on Sunday). Need to find some other
	time. Need to create an agenda.
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Tenatively suggested Monday evening, after awards ceremony.</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	<li>Discussed version increment for next year (Io). Decided "3.1", unless there is major additions or something
	breaking. [Added after the meeting, should we consider "3.5"? (to match the platform?)
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>No one liked "3.5" idea.</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	<li>Potential resource issues?
	<ul>
	<li>Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen</li>
	<li>Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).</li>
	<li>Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)</li>
	<li>Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps
	ask for community help.</li>
	<li>Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>
	<ul>
	<li>No obvious resouce solutions.</li>
	<li>Needs some JSF features, at least for build</li>
	</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<h3>To Do</h3>
	<ol>
	<li>David: Will call for Project Lead vote on <a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on Package Visibility</a></li>
	<li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li>
	<li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li>
	<li>David: post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations page, especially,
	even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit</li>
	</ol>
	<h3>Done</h3>
	<ol>
	<li>Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership
	of their own pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li>
	<li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring
	Proposal</a></li>
	<li>David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.</li>
	</ol>
	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Tentatively plan f2f Sunday before EclipseCon</li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
	</html>