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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for August 26, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 800388# <br />
 <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
     href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=10
 &amp;day=16
 &amp;year=2007
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>

 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: R</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: R</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: N</li>
     <li>Kaloyan Raev Y</li>
 </ul>

 <!--
 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
 <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
 </ul>
 -->
 <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Creative Common License - Attribution-Share Alike
     <p>Pending. Will be check with Eclipse Foundation to confirm this license fits within their policies</p>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
 <!-- Rotate topics by taking last one and putting it on top -->
 <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
 <p><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.1_Project_Plan">Planning Process Document</a> has been started.</p>
 <p>Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a <a
     href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01422.html">Planning Council message</a>
 (and elsewhere). Should we adjust ours?</p>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
 <p>Please review: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/resources/">Resource Page Proposal</a></p>
 <p>Naci was approached (and countered) with some proposed articles for Eclipse (online) magazine [need link. only
 one I found last published in 2007?] Naci will invite authors for a series of articles for "WTP Uncovered":</p>
 <ol>
     <li>web developer tools (xml, xsl, html, css)</li>
     <li>web applications with Java (jsf, jsp, server)</li>
     <li>enterpise application (jpa/ejb)</li>
     <li>soa, webservices</li>
     <li>adopters/extending (maybe)</li>
 </ol>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>WTP 3.1 M1 (respinning)</li>
     <li>?Pre 1.0 release of ATF component mid October</li>
     <li>3.0.2 and 3.0.3</li>
     <li>JPT 2.1</li>
     <li>2009, Galileo Release</li>
 </ul>
 <!--
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>Reminder to be sure to check for <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.0.1/pmc-bug-approval.php">"PMC
     Review" bugs</a>.</dd>
     <dd>Reminded to be consistent in approving defects (such as getting project lead review, documenting "stop
     ship" need, etc.</dd>
 </dl>
  -->
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process document</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>Neil investigating "close old bugs" policy.</dd>
     <dd>Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll
     prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage
     individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still
     an issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).</dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference:</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
     <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
 <ul>
     <li></li>
 </ul>
 <h4>References</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
 <ul>
     <li></li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
     <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
     Architecture Working Group</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h2>General business?</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Discussed need for <a href=https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152461">bug 152461</a></li>
     <li>Other projects to watch:
     <ul>
         <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA Tools</a></li>
         <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
         <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven Integration</a></li>
     </ul>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">Eclipse World</a><br />
     Raghu and Neil have submitted.</li>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2008/">Eclipse European Summit</a>. Known cases of
     presentations to be submitted: Kaloyan "project creation?", Naci will attend but (probably) not present. JPA,
     probably Shawn probably combined with EclipseLink. JSF, probably Cameron.</li>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/">EclipseCon 2009</a>. September we'll start recruiting talks.</li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
 </body>
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	<head>
	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for August 26, 2008 Conference Call</title>
	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for August 26, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 800388# <br />
	<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=10
	&day=16
	&year=2007
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>

	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: R</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: R</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: N</li>
	<li>Kaloyan Raev Y</li>
	</ul>

	<!--
	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
	</ul>
	-->
	<h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Creative Common License - Attribution-Share Alike
	<p>Pending. Will be check with Eclipse Foundation to confirm this license fits within their policies</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
	<!-- Rotate topics by taking last one and putting it on top -->
	<h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
	<p><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.1_Project_Plan">Planning Process Document</a> has been started.</p>
	<p>Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a <a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01422.html">Planning Council message</a>
	(and elsewhere). Should we adjust ours?</p>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
	<p>Please review: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/resources/">Resource Page Proposal</a></p>
	<p>Naci was approached (and countered) with some proposed articles for Eclipse (online) magazine [need link. only
	one I found last published in 2007?] Naci will invite authors for a series of articles for "WTP Uncovered":</p>
	<ol>
	<li>web developer tools (xml, xsl, html, css)</li>
	<li>web applications with Java (jsf, jsp, server)</li>
	<li>enterpise application (jpa/ejb)</li>
	<li>soa, webservices</li>
	<li>adopters/extending (maybe)</li>
	</ol>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>WTP 3.1 M1 (respinning)</li>
	<li>?Pre 1.0 release of ATF component mid October</li>
	<li>3.0.2 and 3.0.3</li>
	<li>JPT 2.1</li>
	<li>2009, Galileo Release</li>
	</ul>
	<!--
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Reminder to be sure to check for <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/3.0.1/pmc-bug-approval.php">"PMC
	Review" bugs</a>.</dd>
	<dd>Reminded to be consistent in approving defects (such as getting project lead review, documenting "stop
	ship" need, etc.</dd>
	</dl>
	-->
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process document</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Neil investigating "close old bugs" policy.</dd>
	<dd>Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll
	prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage
	individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still
	an issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference:</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
	<li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
	<ul>
	<li></li>
	</ul>
	<h4>References</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
	<ul>
	<li></li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
	<li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
	Architecture Working Group</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h2>General business?</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Discussed need for <a href=https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=152461">bug 152461</a></li>
	<li>Other projects to watch:
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA Tools</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven Integration</a></li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipseworld.net/">Eclipse World</a><br />
	Raghu and Neil have submitted.</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2008/">Eclipse European Summit</a>. Known cases of
	presentations to be submitted: Kaloyan "project creation?", Naci will attend but (probably) not present. JPA,
	probably Shawn probably combined with EclipseLink. JSF, probably Cameron.</li>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/">EclipseCon 2009</a>. September we'll start recruiting talks.</li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
	</html>