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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 24, 2009 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 173098# <br />
 <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
     href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=11
 &amp;day=04
 &amp;year=2008
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>

 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
     <li>Kaloyan Raev: Y</li>
 </ul>

 <!--
 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
 <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
 </ul>
 -->
 <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
 <ul>
     <li>Any proposals yet for 3.0.5? Tentative proposal May 20th/27th.</li>
     <li>Proposal for WTP 3.2: JPA 2.0, JSDT, JEE 6 tolerance? JEE 6 Support? JSF 2.0?
     <li>... in December? or March?</li>
     <li>... or release in December, service in March?</li>
     <li>... what, then would June's release be? (same, but on Eclipse 3.6)</li>
     <li>XSL Tools Graduation?</li>
 </ul>
 <p>Unclear when JPA 2.0 Spec. will finalize (probably summer, but possible fall). But otherwise Dec. is good.</p>
 <p>Is JPA 2.0 "tied to" the JEE 6.0? No.</p>
 <p>JEE 6 tolerance for sure, some support if specs done</p>
 <p>when would feature freeze be? Kaloyan leaning toward October feature freeze. "Early December" preferable.</p>
 <p>XML Project would be good, but important to keep as a unit.</p>

 <!--

 Reports, Actions, Issues

  -->
 <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
 <!--

     Rotate topics by taking last one and putting it on top

 -->
 <!--

     Planning

  -->
 <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>

 <ul>
     <li>3.0.4 (SR2) to become public on 2/25.</li>
     <li>We are doing some few 3.0.4 patches (will have 3.0.4 P target).</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
 </ul>
 <!--

     User Experience

  -->
 <h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Had <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/JavaEE_Perspective_UIWG_Walkthrough">UI Walkthrough</a></li>
     <li>Started collecting <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/JavaEE_Perspective_Usage_Screenshots">usage data</a></li>
 </ul>
 <p>Kaloyan reports he's submitted 2 ideas to summer-of-code wiki: the emf indexing of jee artifacts, and a preview ejb container.
 This is "summer of '09" item, if it gets accepted, and interests a participant.</p>

 <h4>References</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <!--

     Quality

  -->
 <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
 <li>Focus items in status meetings:
 <p>Good progress ... switch to something new in week or two.</p>
 </li>
 <li>Neil investigating a blanket "close old bugs" policy -- to present to the group for review and approval.</li>
 <li>Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll
 prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage
 individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still an
 issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference:</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
     <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
 </ul>
 <!--

     Architecture

  -->
 <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>API Tools. Tim to investigate and make recommendations to teams.</li>
 </ul>
 <p>Tim still owes writeup of tips on how to get started. </p>
 <p>Gary will discuss Concurancy at Thursday's status meeting></p>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
     <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
     Architecture Working Group</a></li>
 </ul>
 <!--

     Education

  -->
 <h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
 <p>Naci reports web pages for education materials are about ready. He is writing article, as deadline is in
 December. Raghu was only response he got for being interested in contributing too.</p>

 <p>Please review: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/resources/">Resource Page Proposal</a></p>
 <p>Naci Reports continuing to work on articles</p>
 <p>Working with Ian to do a press release on education materials. Prior or concurrent with EclipseCon</p>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <!--

     Requirements

  -->
 <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
 <p>Raghu noted we should remind PLs to update plans every milestone.</p>

 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.1_Project_Plan">Planning Process Document</a> has been started.</li>
     <li>Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a <a
         href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01422.html">Planning Council
     message</a> (and elsewhere).</li>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
 </ul>

 <!--

 General business

  -->
 <h2>General business?</h2>
 <h3>Other projects to watch:</h3>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA Tools</a></li>
     <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
     <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven Integration</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/">EclipseCon 2009</a>.</li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
 </body>
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	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for February 24, 2009 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 173098# <br />
	<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=11
	&day=04
	&year=2008
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>

	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: Y</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	<li>Kaloyan Raev: Y</li>
	</ul>

	<!--
	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
	</ul>
	-->
	<h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
	<ul>
	<li>Any proposals yet for 3.0.5? Tentative proposal May 20th/27th.</li>
	<li>Proposal for WTP 3.2: JPA 2.0, JSDT, JEE 6 tolerance? JEE 6 Support? JSF 2.0?
	<li>... in December? or March?</li>
	<li>... or release in December, service in March?</li>
	<li>... what, then would June's release be? (same, but on Eclipse 3.6)</li>
	<li>XSL Tools Graduation?</li>
	</ul>
	<p>Unclear when JPA 2.0 Spec. will finalize (probably summer, but possible fall). But otherwise Dec. is good.</p>
	<p>Is JPA 2.0 "tied to" the JEE 6.0? No.</p>
	<p>JEE 6 tolerance for sure, some support if specs done</p>
	<p>when would feature freeze be? Kaloyan leaning toward October feature freeze. "Early December" preferable.</p>
	<p>XML Project would be good, but important to keep as a unit.</p>

	<!--

	Reports, Actions, Issues

	-->
	<h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
	<!--

	Rotate topics by taking last one and putting it on top

	-->
	<!--

	Planning

	-->
	<h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>

	<ul>
	<li>3.0.4 (SR2) to become public on 2/25.</li>
	<li>We are doing some few 3.0.4 patches (will have 3.0.4 P target).</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
	</ul>
	<!--

	User Experience

	-->
	<h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Had <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/JavaEE_Perspective_UIWG_Walkthrough">UI Walkthrough</a></li>
	<li>Started collecting <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/JavaEE_Perspective_Usage_Screenshots">usage data</a></li>
	</ul>
	<p>Kaloyan reports he's submitted 2 ideas to summer-of-code wiki: the emf indexing of jee artifacts, and a preview ejb container.
	This is "summer of '09" item, if it gets accepted, and interests a participant.</p>

	<h4>References</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<!--

	Quality

	-->
	<h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
	<li>Focus items in status meetings:
	<p>Good progress ... switch to something new in week or two.</p>
	</li>
	<li>Neil investigating a blanket "close old bugs" policy -- to present to the group for review and approval.</li>
	<li>Neil has estimated approximately 800 bugs (of 2000 untargeted bugs) could be considered "old bugs". He'll
	prepare a table and note to send to project with encouragement to PLs to handle ... something like either triage
	individually and assign a target, or mark with 'helpwanted' or mark in mass with a kind comment to re-open if still an
	issue (with reason for the mass update, etc.).</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference:</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
	<li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
	</ul>
	<!--

	Architecture

	-->
	<h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>API Tools. Tim to investigate and make recommendations to teams.</li>
	</ul>
	<p>Tim still owes writeup of tips on how to get started. </p>
	<p>Gary will discuss Concurancy at Thursday's status meeting></p>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
	<li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
	Architecture Working Group</a></li>
	</ul>
	<!--

	Education

	-->
	<h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3>
	<p>Naci reports web pages for education materials are about ready. He is writing article, as deadline is in
	December. Raghu was only response he got for being interested in contributing too.</p>

	<p>Please review: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/resources/">Resource Page Proposal</a></p>
	<p>Naci Reports continuing to work on articles</p>
	<p>Working with Ian to do a press release on education materials. Prior or concurrent with EclipseCon</p>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<!--

	Requirements

	-->
	<h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
	<p>Raghu noted we should remind PLs to update plans every milestone.</p>

	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_3.1_Project_Plan">Planning Process Document</a> has been started.</li>
	<li>Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a <a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse.org-planning-council/msg01422.html">Planning Council
	message</a> (and elsewhere).</li>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
	</ul>

	<!--

	General business

	-->
	<h2>General business?</h2>
	<h3>Other projects to watch:</h3>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA Tools</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven Integration</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/2009/">EclipseCon 2009</a>.</li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
	</html>