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| <title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for April 22, 2008 Conference Call</title> |
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| <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for April 22, 2008 Conference Call</h1> |
| <h2>Call Info</h2> |
| <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br /> |
| Alternate: 770-615-1247<br /> |
| Access code: 800388# <br /> |
| <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br /> |
| <br /> |
| <a |
| href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107 |
| &month=10 |
| &day=16 |
| &year=2007 |
| &hour=11 |
| &min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call |
| Time: 1500 UTC</a></p> |
| <h2>Attendees</h2> |
| <p>I was 10 minutes late, greatest apologies, so effectivley had no meeting, though did have brief chat with Tim, |
| and will follow up with emails where needed.</p> |
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| <h3>PMC Members</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>David Williams: Y</li> |
| <li>Naci Dai: N (Regrets)</li> |
| <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> |
| <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li> |
| <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li> |
| <li>Kaloyan Raev N (Regrets)</li> |
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| <h3>Invited Guests</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <h2>Announcements</h2> |
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| <li></li> |
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| <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2> |
| <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>* Tim will draft and send inner-api policy soon. <br /> |
| Done. Please review new section <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_API_Policy">WTP_API_Policy</a></li> |
| <li>* Tim will find out specific "advise to give developers (and auto-test teams)" to implement the WTP API |
| policy (which tools/build reports to use).</li> |
| <li>* Tim to implement "Java Doc Builds" for server tools, and make recommendations to other projects on how to |
| implement.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <dl> |
| <dt>Notes:</dt> |
| <dd> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Recommended to restart the protected non-api scans.</li> |
| <li>Will not accept new data, for now, but if tooling could be improved to detect/remove additional |
| (non-protected) data, then perhaps it'd be useful to show non-api use going down.</li> |
| <li>** But, an update: Have discovered that current ones are nearly meaningless, since so much as changed, |
| so scan's show us as "changing protected API", but it's not protected API any longer.</li> |
| </ul> |
| </dd> |
| </dl> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li> |
| <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP |
| Architecture Working Group</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01399.html">Draft release plan for the next |
| release by June?</a></li> |
| <li>** An Update on "standard plan format by June" ... <br /> |
| Rumor has it that the June deadline was to have a standard format decided, and the "infrastructure" in place to roll |
| them up into a single roadmap document. The "real" plan is expected by September. My understanding was there would |
| be a new note to this effect to "project leads list", but haven't seen it yet. But, suggest we ... Raghu? ... sort |
| through the standard project plan format to see what we can/should do. I think the only question is if we want to |
| have one WTP plan, and then produce the standard format from that (which would be my first thought) or literally |
| have just one plan that happens to satisfy both needs.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Education: Naci Dai (meeting conflict till May)</h3> |
| <p>** Need stauts update</p> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.</li> |
| <li>Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.</li> |
| <li>phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios</li> |
| </ul> |
| <dl> |
| <dt>Notes:</dt> |
| <dd>Orgainizing "current" now, should be ready by EclipseCon.</dd> |
| <dd>Will be organized better for narrowing selection and sorting.</dd> |
| <dd>For now, the "database" will be one XML file, with various attributes/qualities to search and sort on.</dd> |
| </dl> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>We may need <b>another</b> 2.0.2 patch -- need to get developers to respond to JBoss use-case problems. |
| (And, I've asked Naci to get involved.) |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222531">222531</a> Regression (?) between wtp |
| 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 in J2EEFlexProjDeployable</li> |
| <li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201318">201318</a> [hotbug] EAR Libraries |
| container fails to initalize for 2.5 web project</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li>Beginning Review Materials |
| <ul> |
| <li>IP Logs: third party code, list of committers, contributors</li> |
| <li>Who's to do API statements, deprecated statemetns?</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>We will no longer have "old bug" focus items in status meetings, as we end this release, but will restart |
| after the June release.</li> |
| <li>Will now focus on "rampdown quality" in status meetings.</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference:</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li> |
| <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process document</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Review "Role Document"</li> |
| </ul> |
| <dl> |
| <dt>Notes:</dt> |
| <dd> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Working on "use cases" document, for novice user. Should be ready for public review and comments in a |
| few weeks.</li> |
| <li>Will be attending the UA Walkthrough meetings, and may propose a WTP one in future (perhaps on facets |
| UI).</li> |
| </ul> |
| </dd> |
| </dl> |
| <h4>References</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>General business?</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Two PMC approvals waiting ... Kiril Mitov, Dimitar Giormov, each for both ejbtools, jeetools<br /> |
| Done. Approved (via emails and IM)</li> |
| <li>* WTP Policy on "Committer Emeritus"?</li> |
| <li>Other projects to watch |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li> |
| <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven Integration</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li>Potential resource issues? |
| <ul> |
| <li>Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen</li> |
| <li>Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).</li> |
| <li>Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)</li> |
| <li>Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps |
| ask for community help.</li> |
| <li>Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.</li> |
| <li>Needs some JSF features, at least for build</li> |
| </ul> |
| <dl> |
| <dt>Notes:</dt> |
| <dd> |
| <ul> |
| <li>No obvious resouce solutions.</li> |
| </ul> |
| </dd> |
| </dl> |
| </li> |
| </ul> |
| <h2>Action Items</h2> |
| <h3>To Do</h3> |
| <ol> |
| <li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li> |
| <li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li> |
| <li>Naci (changed from David): post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations |
| page, especially, even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit</li> |
| </ol> |
| <h3>Done</h3> |
| <ol> |
| <li>Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership |
| of their own pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li> |
| <li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring |
| Proposal</a></li> |
| <li>David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.</li> |
| <li>David: Resolved <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on |
| Package Visibility</a></li> |
| </ol> |
| <h2>PMC Calendar</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>* Eclipse World deadline has passed (though they sometimes accept late submissions). Who has submitted?</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p> |
| <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p> |
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