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| <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 27, 2009 Conference Call</h1> |
| <h2>Call Info</h2> |
| <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br /> |
| Alternate: 770-615-1247<br /> |
| Access code: 173098# <br /> |
| <a |
| href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full |
| list of phone numbers</a><br /> |
| <br /> |
| <a |
| href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107 |
| &month=20 |
| &day=20 |
| &year=2009 |
| &hour=11 |
| &min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call |
| Time: 1500 UTC</a></p> |
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| <h2>Attendees</h2> |
| <h3>PMC Members</h3> |
| <ul> |
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| <li class="compact">David Williams: Y</li> |
| <li class="compact">Naci Dai: N</li> |
| <li class="compact">Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li> |
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| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David |
| Williams: Y</li> |
| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: R</li> |
| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan |
| Srinivasan: Y</li> |
| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge: |
| Y</li> |
| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer: |
| Y</li> |
| <li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan |
| Raev: R</li> |
| </ul> |
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| <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2> |
| <ul> |
| <li>Naci provided these links to English versions of EclipseZine |
| articles:<br /> |
| <a href="http://jaxenter.com/">http://jaxenter.com/</a><br /> |
| <a |
| href="http://jaxenter.com/articles/09/Eclipse-Web-Tools-Platform-Uncovered.html">Eclipse-Web-Tools-Platform-Uncovered</a> |
| </li> |
| <li><a href="http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2009/">Eclipse |
| Summit Europe</a> taking place this week.</li> |
| <li>JSF: Is bug <a |
| href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=293211">293211</a> |
| a reasonable 'hotbug' request? Bug <a |
| href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=292939">292939</a>? |
| <p>Raghu thought fine to discuss and bring forward. He rightly |
| emphasized importance of doing JUnit tests. He said he could not get to |
| it until next week.</p> |
| </li> |
| <li>Dali Off cycle release. |
| <ul> |
| <li>PMC gave its "pre approval", in principle, pending the actual |
| materials, etc.</li> |
| <li>It was concluded it would be best to "wait as long as |
| possible" before announcing the formal review, just in case spec |
| changes content or release date. But things within the project |
| could/should proceed as it it would be around Dec. 18th.</li> |
| <li>The issue of "how to version features" was discussed, such as |
| difference between the version number needed for proper install and |
| updates, and the more commonly known "marketing number". In this |
| off-cycle release, Dali deserves "3.0" as marketing number, since JPA |
| 2.0 is a significant step forward in functionality. But, at the same |
| time, there is no "breaking API".</li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| |
| <!-- |
| <li>FYI: I'm proposing a <a |
| href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=289785">"JavaScript |
| Developers"</a> package for Helios in addition to the traditional JEE one. |
| </li> |
| - -> |
| <!- - |
| <li>Discuss project metrics? |
| <p>It was agreed this was worth the PMC looking at, from time to |
| time.</p> |
| <p>Will explore <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/org/usagedata/">UDC |
| Data</a>, in addition to fix rates, lines of code, cvs commits, number of |
| junits?</p> |
| <p>See <a |
| href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/reports/Editors200907.pdf">Report |
| on Editor usage in July, 2009</a></p> |
| </li> |
| |
| <li>Review Post Mortem? See <a |
| href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_31">Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_31</a>. |
| <br /> |
| Biggest, most immediate concern was large number of intermittent |
| failing builds/tests. |
| <p>Notes: next steps: open bugs for good ideas that have some |
| chance of someone implementing.</p> |
| </li> |
| --> |
| </ul> |
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| Reports, Actions, Issues |
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| --> |
| <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2> |
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| Rotate topics by taking last one and putting it on top |
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| Requirements |
| |
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| <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3> |
| <p>?</p> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP |
| Requirements Lead Role</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| Planning |
| |
| --> |
| <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>?</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP |
| Planning Role</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| User Experience |
| |
| --> |
| <h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>?</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>References</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP |
| User Experience Lead</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| Quality |
| |
| --> |
| <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>?</li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference:</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP |
| Quality Lead</a></li> |
| <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality |
| Page</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| Architecture |
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| --> |
| <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li> |
| <p>?</p> |
| </li> |
| </ul> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP |
| Architecture Lead Role</a></li> |
| <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a |
| href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP |
| Architecture Working Group</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| Education |
| |
| --> |
| <h3>Education: Naci Dai</h3> |
| <p>?</p> |
| <h4>Reference</h4> |
| <ul> |
| <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP |
| Education Lead</a></li> |
| <li>Reference: <a |
| href="http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/">Community and |
| Education</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <!-- |
| |
| General business |
| |
| --> |
| <h2>General business?</h2> |
| <h3>References</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>FYI ... Eclipse Foundation has a relatively new <a |
| href="http://www.eclipse.org/home/categories/index.php?category=enterprise">"enterprise |
| page"</a>.</li> |
| <li><a |
| href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=webtools">WTP |
| 3.2 Plans</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| <h3>Other projects to watch:</h3> |
| <ul> |
| <li>WTP @ GSoC 2009. There are two project accepted: |
| <ul> |
| <li>Index search for Java EE metadata. See <a |
| href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=233505">bug |
| 233505</a></li> |
| <li>Embed OpenEJB in J2EE Preview server adapter. See <a |
| href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265952">bug |
| 265952</a></li> |
| </ul> |
| </li> |
| <li><a href="http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sca-tools/">SCA |
| Tools</a></li> |
| <li><a |
| href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT |
| Texo project proposal</a></li> |
| <li><a |
| href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg06011.html">Maven |
| Integration</a></li> |
| </ul> |
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| <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p> |
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