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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 19, 2010 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 173098# <br />
 <a
 	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full
 list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
 	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=08
 &amp;day=31
 &amp;year=2010
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 8:00 AM Pacific; 11:00 AM Eastern; 1500 UTC</a></p>


 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David
 	Williams: Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: N</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan
 	Srinivasan: Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge:
 	Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer:
 	Y</li>
 	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan
 	Raev: Y</li>
 </ul>


 <h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
 <ul>


 	<li>Any news on OSGi EE Tools Proposal?
 	<p style="font-style: italic;"><a
 		href="http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=200">Forum
 	Discussion</a></p>

 	</li>
 	<li>Discuss <a
 		href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01728.html">proposed
 	Vex move</a>
 	<p style="font-style: italic;">We discussed pros and cons. Actually
 	had a hard time thinking of any "cons". Only ones mentioned that came
 	close was that the move could result in less then ideal integration
 	with xml/sse fromwork. It might lesson the need or viability of an "xml
 	project" thats been discussed at times ... by setting an example of xml
 	going where its used, instead of a central technology point. Might
 	inhibit Vex from expanding out into new areas where a visual xml editor
 	would be useful (and instead focus on only the documentation use
 	cases). But none of those seemed very large or likely, at least not to
 	out weigh the advantages that were anticipated: closer to like-minded
 	developers and end-users. Especially since there were no other
 	dependencies on it within WTP or (as far as we know) adopters of WTP
 	[after all, it has been incubating] so any new uses/dependencies, etc.,
 	could be worked out as well in one project vs. the other. In other
 	words, move request approved. Compliments to Dave and others for
 	thinking of it and taking a constructive, proactive, positive approach
 	to improving Eclipse.</p>
 	</li>


 	<li style="font-style: italic;">JAXRS Tooling?
 	<p style="font-style: italic;">Neil mentioned an unanswered
 	newsgroup/forum/mailing list post. We agreed it was fine for a PMC
 	member to send email to project leads, pointing out an item of interest
 	that they might be interested in responding to. [DONE]</p>
 	</li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Future Agenda items</h3>
 <ul style="text-indent: 5em; font-style: italic;">

 	<li>Retrospect Helios quick maintenance release. Does it mean we
 	weren't ready to release? Any way to improve timing in future?</li>
 	<li>Disuss our model and assignments of "PMC Roles". Do they still
 	make sense?</li>


 </ul>
 <h3>References</h3>
 <ul>

 	<li><a
 		href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_32">Continuous
 	Improvement Notes</a></li>


 </ul>


 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
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	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 19, 2010 Conference
	Call</title>
	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for October 19, 2010 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 173098# <br />
	<a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full
	list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=08
	&day=31
	&year=2010
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 8:00 AM Pacific; 11:00 AM Eastern; 1500 UTC</a></p>


	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">David
	Williams: Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Naci Dai: N</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Raghunathan
	Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Neil Hauge:
	Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Tim deBoer:
	Y</li>
	<li style="margin: 0em 0.2em 0em 0em; padding: 0.0em;">Kaloyan
	Raev: Y</li>
	</ul>


	<h2>Announcements and General Business</h2>
	<ul>


	<li>Any news on OSGi EE Tools Proposal?
	<p style="font-style: italic;"><a
	href="http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=200">Forum
	Discussion</a></p>

	</li>
	<li>Discuss <a
	href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01728.html">proposed
	Vex move</a>
	<p style="font-style: italic;">We discussed pros and cons. Actually
	had a hard time thinking of any "cons". Only ones mentioned that came
	close was that the move could result in less then ideal integration
	with xml/sse fromwork. It might lesson the need or viability of an "xml
	project" thats been discussed at times ... by setting an example of xml
	going where its used, instead of a central technology point. Might
	inhibit Vex from expanding out into new areas where a visual xml editor
	would be useful (and instead focus on only the documentation use
	cases). But none of those seemed very large or likely, at least not to
	out weigh the advantages that were anticipated: closer to like-minded
	developers and end-users. Especially since there were no other
	dependencies on it within WTP or (as far as we know) adopters of WTP
	[after all, it has been incubating] so any new uses/dependencies, etc.,
	could be worked out as well in one project vs. the other. In other
	words, move request approved. Compliments to Dave and others for
	thinking of it and taking a constructive, proactive, positive approach
	to improving Eclipse.</p>
	</li>


	<li style="font-style: italic;">JAXRS Tooling?
	<p style="font-style: italic;">Neil mentioned an unanswered
	newsgroup/forum/mailing list post. We agreed it was fine for a PMC
	member to send email to project leads, pointing out an item of interest
	that they might be interested in responding to. [DONE]</p>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Future Agenda items</h3>
	<ul style="text-indent: 5em; font-style: italic;">

	<li>Retrospect Helios quick maintenance release. Does it mean we
	weren't ready to release? Any way to improve timing in future?</li>
	<li>Disuss our model and assignments of "PMC Roles". Do they still
	make sense?</li>


	</ul>
	<h3>References</h3>
	<ul>

	<li><a
	href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Team_thoughts_on_continuous_improvement_32">Continuous
	Improvement Notes</a></li>


	</ul>


	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
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