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 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <h4>Attendees</h4>
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 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <ul>

 <li>
 				From Oracle: Raghu Srinivasan, Gerry Kessler, Ian
 				Trimble, Justin Chen, Cameron Bateman
 			</li>

 <li>
 				From IBM: David Williams, Amy Wu, Phillip Avery, Nitin
 				Dahyabhai
 			</li>

 <li>From Sybase: Jean Choi</li>


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 <td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Talking points for the discussion</font></b></td>
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 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top"><b>JSF JSP Editor</b></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>
 			We have decided for now to go ahead and create our own
 			editor with our own config rather than request enhancements
 			to the JSP config to support our requirements
 			<br>

 <i>Reasons</i>

 <ul>

 <li>
 					better control over content assist (we saw the
 					modelQueryExtension and it may work, but we desire
 					more control over proposal creation)
 				</li>

 <li>
 					could not determine a way to add our own hyperlink
 					detector
 				</li>


 <li>
 					if we have our own editor and config, should we
 					create a new content type or use the JSF Fragment?
 				</li>

 </ul>

 </p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>Extended Configurations</b>

 <br>
 			-what are all of the possible provisional configs - will
 			they become API in 1.5?
 		</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>Content Assist</b>

 <br>
 			- lots of comments in computeProposals like:
 			<br>
 			//
 			////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 			// ANOTHER WORKAROUND UNTIL PARTITIONING TAKES CARE OF THIS
 			<br>
 			-what is this about and will partition take care of this in
 			1.5???
 		</p>
 </td>
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 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>Hyperlink</b>

 <br>
 			- plans for multi-link presenter? - suggestions on how to
 			deal with 2 or more possible links per detection?
 		</p>
 </td>
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 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>Quick Fix/Quick Assist</b>

 <br>
 			- what plans does JSP have? - appears that there is no
 			QuickFix annotation presenter in SSE framework.
 		</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>Content Model API</b>

 <br>
 			- any thoughts about opening it up?
 		</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>

 <b>JSF EL Parser</b>

 <br>
 			- guidance???
 		</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>SSE/JSP Plans for 1.5?</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Meeting Details</font></b></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>
 			Discussions were centered generally around usage of the
 			SSE/JSP frameworks with respect to a JSF JSP Source Page
 			Editor.
 		</p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <ul>

 <li>
 				there should be no new JSF configuration or JSF content
 				type. JSF project should use the JSP configuration and
 				use the avaiable extensions
 			</li>

 <li>
 				content assist - use the modelQueryExtension to provide
 				attribute value proposals
 			</li>

 <li>
 				hyperlink detection - SSE team is waiting on
 				https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=88293 to
 				provide support for extensions. The JSF team may need to
 				postpone this feature or provide an interim solution.
 			</li>

 <li>
 				validation - JSF validators should use the
 				sourcevalidation extension point using jsp content type
 				on approriate partitions
 			</li>

 <li>
 				JSF EL - JSF team to implement a parser using JFlex
 				preferably. BEA supplied the current JSP parser. SSE
 				team indicated that some aspects may be tricky.
 			</li>

 <li>
 				Annotations Registry - JSF team has prototyped a
 				registry of annotations to content models external from
 				the content model itself. JSF project will be using the
 				meta-data it provides on attributes and elements to
 				provide meta-data driven features like content assist
 				and validation. SSE team has had requests for something
 				similar.
 				https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=122909 .
 				JSF Team will publish it's feature spec shortly for
 				comment and perform a demonstration in a couple of weeks
 			</li>

 <li>
 				Enhancements to SSE/JSP - If there are bugs or
 				enhacements to the SSE/JSP layer, don't be afraid to fix
 				small issues with patches. larger issues see if we can
 				fix and contribute ourselves. Communicate.
 			</li>

 </ul>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Issues</font></b></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p></p>
 </td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Action Items</font></b></td>
 </tr>
 <tr>
 <td align="right" valign="top">&nbsp;</td><td valign="top">
 <p>
 			Raghu to schedule next meeting in two weeks on 2006-03-03.
 		</p>
 </td>
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	<font class="indexsub">the javaserver faces tools subproject</font></td><td width="40%"><img src="../../../webtools/images/wtplogosmall.jpg" align="middle" height="129" hspace="50" width="207"></td>
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	<td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Design discussion meeting notes: 2006-02-17.</font></b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<h4>Attendees</h4>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<ul>

	<li>
	From Oracle: Raghu Srinivasan, Gerry Kessler, Ian
	Trimble, Justin Chen, Cameron Bateman
	</li>

	<li>
	From IBM: David Williams, Amy Wu, Phillip Avery, Nitin
	Dahyabhai
	</li>

	<li>From Sybase: Jean Choi</li>


	</ul>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Talking points for the discussion</font></b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top"><b>JSF JSP Editor</b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>
	We have decided for now to go ahead and create our own
	editor with our own config rather than request enhancements
	to the JSP config to support our requirements
	<br>

	<i>Reasons</i>

	<ul>

	<li>
	better control over content assist (we saw the
	modelQueryExtension and it may work, but we desire
	more control over proposal creation)
	</li>

	<li>
	could not determine a way to add our own hyperlink
	detector
	</li>


	<li>
	if we have our own editor and config, should we
	create a new content type or use the JSF Fragment?
	</li>

	</ul>

	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>Extended Configurations</b>

	<br>
	-what are all of the possible provisional configs - will
	they become API in 1.5?
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>Content Assist</b>

	<br>
	- lots of comments in computeProposals like:
	<br>
	//
	////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
	// ANOTHER WORKAROUND UNTIL PARTITIONING TAKES CARE OF THIS
	<br>
	-what is this about and will partition take care of this in
	1.5???
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>Hyperlink</b>

	<br>
	- plans for multi-link presenter? - suggestions on how to
	deal with 2 or more possible links per detection?
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>Quick Fix/Quick Assist</b>

	<br>
	- what plans does JSP have? - appears that there is no
	QuickFix annotation presenter in SSE framework.
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>Content Model API</b>

	<br>
	- any thoughts about opening it up?
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>

	<b>JSF EL Parser</b>

	<br>
	- guidance???
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>SSE/JSP Plans for 1.5?</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Meeting Details</font></b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>
	Discussions were centered generally around usage of the
	SSE/JSP frameworks with respect to a JSF JSP Source Page
	Editor.
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<ul>

	<li>
	there should be no new JSF configuration or JSF content
	type. JSF project should use the JSP configuration and
	use the avaiable extensions
	</li>

	<li>
	content assist - use the modelQueryExtension to provide
	attribute value proposals
	</li>

	<li>
	hyperlink detection - SSE team is waiting on
	https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=88293 to
	provide support for extensions. The JSF team may need to
	postpone this feature or provide an interim solution.
	</li>

	<li>
	validation - JSF validators should use the
	sourcevalidation extension point using jsp content type
	on approriate partitions
	</li>

	<li>
	JSF EL - JSF team to implement a parser using JFlex
	preferably. BEA supplied the current JSP parser. SSE
	team indicated that some aspects may be tricky.
	</li>

	<li>
	Annotations Registry - JSF team has prototyped a
	registry of annotations to content models external from
	the content model itself. JSF project will be using the
	meta-data it provides on attributes and elements to
	provide meta-data driven features like content assist
	and validation. SSE team has had requests for something
	similar.
	https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=122909 .
	JSF Team will publish it's feature spec shortly for
	comment and perform a demonstration in a couple of weeks
	</li>

	<li>
	Enhancements to SSE/JSP - If there are bugs or
	enhacements to the SSE/JSP layer, don't be afraid to fix
	small issues with patches. larger issues see if we can
	fix and contribute ourselves. Communicate.
	</li>

	</ul>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Issues</font></b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p></p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td colspan="2" align="left" bgcolor="#0080c0" valign="top"><b><font color="#ffffff" face="Arial,Helvetica">Action Items</font></b></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	<td align="right" valign="top"> </td><td valign="top">
	<p>
	Raghu to schedule next meeting in two weeks on 2006-03-03.
	</p>
	</td>
	</tr>
	</tbody>
	</table>
	</body>
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