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 <h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for April 15, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
 <h2>Call Info</h2>
 <p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
 Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
 Access code: 800388# <br />
 <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
 <br />
 <a
     href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
 &amp;month=10
 &amp;day=16
 &amp;year=2007
 &amp;hour=11
 &amp;min=0&amp;sec=0&amp;p1=207">Call
 Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>
 <h2>Attendees</h2>
 <h3>PMC Members</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>David Williams: Y</li>
     <li>Naci Dai: N (Regrets)</li>
     <li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
     <li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
     <li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
     <li>Kaloyan Raev Y</li>
 </ul>
 <!--
 <h3>Invited Guests</h3>
 <ul>
 <li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
 </ul>
 -->
 <!--
 <h2>Announcements</h2>
 <ul>
     <li></li>
 </ul>
  -->
 <h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
 <h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Review "Role Document"</li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>
     <ul>
         <li>Working on "use cases" document, for novice user. Should be ready for public review and comments in a
         few weeks.</li>
         <li>Will be attending the UA Walkthrough meetings, and may propose a WTP one in future (perhaps on facets
         UI).</li>
     </ul>
     </dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>References</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Tim will draft and send inner-api policy soon.</li>
     <li>Tim will find out specific "advise to give developers (and auto-test teams)" to implement the WTP API
     policy (which tools/build reports to use).</li>
     <li>Tim to implement "Java Doc Builds" for server tools, and make recommendations to other projects on how to
     implement.</li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>
     <ul>
         <li>Recommended to restart the protected non-api scans.</li>
         <li>Will not accept new data, for now, but if tooling could be improved to detect/remove additional
         (non-protected) data, then perhaps it'd be useful to show non-api use going down.</li>
     </ul>
     </dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
     <li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
     Architecture Working Group</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>All need to update final document, and list exceptions.</li>
     <li>Strategic Advisory Council -- cancelled -- just that one meeting?</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Education: Naci Dai (meeting conflict till May)</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.</li>
     <li>Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.</li>
     <li>phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios</li>
 </ul>
 <dl>
     <dt>Notes:</dt>
     <dd>Orgainizing "current" now, should be ready by EclipseCon.</dd>
     <dd>Will be organized better for narrowing selection and sorting.</dd>
     <dd>For now, the "database" will be one XML file, with various attributes/qualities to search and sort on.</dd>
 </dl>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>Ganymede M6 today (Monday, 4/15</li>
     <li>We may need <b>another</b> 2.0.2 patch -- need to get developers to respond to JBoss use-case problems.
     (And, I've asked Naci to get involved.)
     <ul>
         <li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222531">222531</a> Regression (?) between wtp
         2.0.1 and 2.0.2 in J2EEFlexProjDeployable</li>
         <li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201318">201318</a> [hotbug] EAR Libraries
         container fails to initalize for 2.5 web project</li>
     </ul>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
 <ul>
     <li>We will no longer have "old bug" focus items in status meetings, as we end this release, but will restart
     after the June release.</li>
     <li>Will now focus on "rampdown quality" in status meetings.</li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference:</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
     <li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h4>Reference</h4>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
     <li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process document</a></li>
 </ul>
 <h2>General business?</h2>
 <ul>
     <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
     <li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01399.html">Draft release plan for the next
     release by June?</a></li>
     <li>Potential resource issues?
     <ul>
         <li>Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen</li>
         <li>Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).</li>
         <li>Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)</li>
         <li>Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps
         ask for community help.</li>
         <li>Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.</li>
         <li>Needs some JSF features, at least for build</li>
     </ul>
     <dl>
         <dt>Notes:</dt>
         <dd>
         <ul>
             <li>No obvious resouce solutions.</li>
         </ul>
         </dd>
     </dl>
     </li>
 </ul>
 <h2>Action Items</h2>
 <h3>To Do</h3>
 <ol>
     <li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li>
     <li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li>
     <li>Naci (changed from David): post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations
     page, especially, even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit</li>
 </ol>
 <h3>Done</h3>
 <ol>
     <li>Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership
     of their own pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li>
     <li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring
     Proposal</a></li>
     <li>David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.</li>
     <li>David: Resolved <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on
     Package Visibility</a></li>
 </ol>
 <h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
 <ul>
     <li></li>
 </ul>
 <hr />
 <p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
 <p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
 </body>
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	<head>
	<title>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for April 15, 2008 Conference Call</title>
	</head>
	<body>
	<h1>WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for April 15, 2008 Conference Call</h1>
	<h2>Call Info</h2>
	<p>Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030 <br />
	Alternate: 770-615-1247<br />
	Access code: 800388# <br />
	<a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/f/f6/WTP_status_phone_access.pdf">Full list of phone numbers</a><br />
	<br />
	<a
	href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?cities=224,207,1440,107
	&month=10
	&day=16
	&year=2007
	&hour=11
	&min=0&sec=0&p1=207">Call
	Time: 1500 UTC</a></p>
	<h2>Attendees</h2>
	<h3>PMC Members</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>David Williams: Y</li>
	<li>Naci Dai: N (Regrets)</li>
	<li>Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y</li>
	<li>Neil Hauge: Y</li>
	<li>Tim deBoer: Y</li>
	<li>Kaloyan Raev Y</li>
	</ul>
	<!--
	<h3>Invited Guests</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Philippe Ombredanne (ATF): N</li>
	</ul>
	-->
	<!--
	<h2>Announcements</h2>
	<ul>
	<li></li>
	</ul>
	-->
	<h2>Reports, Actions, Issues</h2>
	<h3>WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Review "Role Document"</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>
	<ul>
	<li>Working on "use cases" document, for novice user. Should be ready for public review and comments in a
	few weeks.</li>
	<li>Will be attending the UA Walkthrough meetings, and may propose a WTP one in future (perhaps on facets
	UI).</li>
	</ul>
	</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>References</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_User_Experience_Lead">WTP User Experience Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Architecture: Tim deBoer</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Tim will draft and send inner-api policy soon.</li>
	<li>Tim will find out specific "advise to give developers (and auto-test teams)" to implement the WTP API
	policy (which tools/build reports to use).</li>
	<li>Tim to implement "Java Doc Builds" for server tools, and make recommendations to other projects on how to
	implement.</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>
	<ul>
	<li>Recommended to restart the protected non-api scans.</li>
	<li>Will not accept new data, for now, but if tooling could be improved to detect/remove additional
	(non-protected) data, then perhaps it'd be useful to show non-api use going down.</li>
	</ul>
	</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Lead">WTP Architecture Lead Role</a></li>
	<li>Tracking meetings and work at <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Architecture_Working_Group">WTP
	Architecture Working Group</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>All need to update final document, and list exceptions.</li>
	<li>Strategic Advisory Council -- cancelled -- just that one meeting?</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Requirements_Lead">WTP Requirements Lead Role</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Education: Naci Dai (meeting conflict till May)</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Phase 1, orgainize what we have, done by end January.</li>
	<li>Phase 2, self guided new materials. some available by EclipseCon.</li>
	<li>phase 3, shutdown .. scenerios</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>Orgainizing "current" now, should be ready by EclipseCon.</dd>
	<dd>Will be organized better for narrowing selection and sorting.</dd>
	<dd>For now, the "database" will be one XML file, with various attributes/qualities to search and sort on.</dd>
	</dl>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Education_Lead">WTP Education Lead</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Planning: David Williams</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>Ganymede M6 today (Monday, 4/15</li>
	<li>We may need <b>another</b> 2.0.2 patch -- need to get developers to respond to JBoss use-case problems.
	(And, I've asked Naci to get involved.)
	<ul>
	<li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222531">222531</a> Regression (?) between wtp
	2.0.1 and 2.0.2 in J2EEFlexProjDeployable</li>
	<li><a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201318">201318</a> [hotbug] EAR Libraries
	container fails to initalize for 2.5 web project</li>
	</ul>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h3>Quality: Neil Hauge</h3>
	<ul>
	<li>We will no longer have "old bug" focus items in status meetings, as we end this release, but will restart
	after the June release.</li>
	<li>Will now focus on "rampdown quality" in status meetings.</li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference:</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality_Lead">WTP Quality Lead</a></li>
	<li>See also <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Quality">Quality Page</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h4>Reference</h4>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Planning_Lead">WTP Planning Role</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Patches_for_Release_2.0.2">patch process document</a></li>
	</ul>
	<h2>General business?</h2>
	<ul>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01400.html">EMFT Texo project proposal</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-pmc/msg01399.html">Draft release plan for the next
	release by June?</a></li>
	<li>Potential resource issues?
	<ul>
	<li>Product plugin for EPP and welcome screen</li>
	<li>Refactoring Doc features (and moving to appropriate sub-projects).</li>
	<li>Refactoring SDK (source and JavaDoc) features/bundles (and moving to appropriate sub-projects)</li>
	<li>Platform/OS coverage for testing and support? -- probably suffices to simply record coverage. Perhaps
	ask for community help.</li>
	<li>Performance Tests -- Kayolan making some progress.</li>
	<li>Needs some JSF features, at least for build</li>
	</ul>
	<dl>
	<dt>Notes:</dt>
	<dd>
	<ul>
	<li>No obvious resouce solutions.</li>
	</ul>
	</dd>
	</dl>
	</li>
	</ul>
	<h2>Action Items</h2>
	<h3>To Do</h3>
	<ol>
	<li>Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects</li>
	<li>David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements</li>
	<li>Naci (changed from David): post instructions and reminders for our "community resources" and presentations
	page, especially, even, for eclipseCon 2007, and Eclipse Summit</li>
	</ol>
	<h3>Done</h3>
	<ol>
	<li>Bob Frasher, all: WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership
	of their own pages. See <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=201331">bug 201331</a></li>
	<li>David: Reorg CVS. See <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_CVS_Restructuring">CVS Restructuring
	Proposal</a></li>
	<li>David: update our "planning" documents with dates for both Ganymede and Winter maintenance.</li>
	<li>David: Resolved <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Policy_on_Package_Visibility">WTP Policy on
	Package Visibility</a></li>
	</ol>
	<h2>PMC Calendar</h2>
	<ul>
	<li></li>
	</ul>
	<hr />
	<p>Back to <a href="../index_pmc_call_notes.php">meeting list</a>.</p>
	<p>Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.</p>
	</body>
	</html>